InlineTurbo Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 According to M. Schiavo and the New York times it is not painful and perfectly natural. If that is the case I propose this as a solution to how we handle the death penalty. If starving people to death is not painful and perfectly natural why don't death row inmates choose that over lethal injection or the chair?In all seriousness this should scare the crap out of peple. A judge in Florida and not her family has the final say on weather she lives or dies. No proof has been given that she has a living will, but that doesn't seem to matter. Why is it people go to the max to save a hardened killer from death, but it seems as those same people are now in favor of staving Terri to death. If you starved a dog or other animal to death there would be groups out for your head, but for some reason a human is different. Their excuse is that she is a vegetable. Unfortunately many doctors who have seen her have stated that is not the case. From hearing from her family and several doctors who disagree with the vegetable diagnosis this should be reasonable doubt to let her live. However despite this she has been starving to death since Friday afternoon. A long term problem from this case is that Congress subpoened her to come before them to testify and a judge rejected that outright. What does that say when we let judges get away with ingnoring a congressional subpoena? This is the second time recently that Judges have made power grabs over the congress which is esentially the people. Congress gets elected, judges don't. Judges have made abortion legal over the will of the public. Judges have made Homosexual marriage legal over the will of the public. Judges have barred the death penalty on minors over the will of the public. It seems that we are having rule by the minority. If you can't get it passed into law it seems you have another shot. Just find a radical judge to find somehow that it is constitutional and it will get imposed upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 i say let her dye, and the media/congress/you/me/everyone but the doctors and family stay out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I say she should have the right to die. Her husband has the right to be able to try to mov on after 15 years of helplessly watching his wife waste away into the mostly braindead being she is today. How horrible for her parents to drag this on. This is selfish and her parents should think about it from terris side. Granted I know no extraordinary means are being taken at this moment, she is still a vegetable, and her cerebral function = 0. I do believe starving her is wrong, but euthanasia is not a bad alternative. Her husband has pretty much dumped all he has into bills and lawyer fees, and her paretns lawyers are being payed by an anti- abortion lobbyist group(weak sauce).Let terri move on to the next step of life, assuming there is one. It is not fair to keep this stuff going on. I mean technically should could last for the rest of her life (80's 90's?) Who is going to pay for all of that? I say leher go in peace, the way nature intended it before she was "saved" in the first place, 15 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan_B Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 I say she should have the right to die. Her husband has the right to be able to try to mov on after 15 years of helplessly watching his wife waste away into the mostly braindead being she is today. How horrible for her parents to drag this on. This is selfish and her parents should think about it from terris side. Granted I know no extraordinary means are being taken at this moment, she is still a vegetable, and her cerebral function = 0. I do believe starving her is wrong, but euthanasia is not a bad alternative. Her husband has pretty much dumped all he has into bills and lawyer fees, and her paretns lawyers are being payed by an anti- abortion lobbyist group(weak sauce).Let terri move on to the next step of life, assuming there is one. It is not fair to keep this stuff going on. I mean technically should could last for the rest of her life (80's 90's?) Who is going to pay for all of that? I say leher go in peace, the way nature intended it before she was "saved" in the first place, 15 years ago.←I agree with 550 ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InlineTurbo Posted March 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) The husband was offered anything he wanted to let the parents take care of her. A divorce, all movie or book rights, all the money, everything and he turned it down. I agree this is a case between the parents, husband and the law. Unfortunately the state is deciding she should die on heresay from a person who rememberd the conversation many years after the fact. That is pretty weak. Also many doctors don't agree she is a vegetable. Enough that there is reasonable doubt. Her parents are willing to take care of her. Why is that so hard just to let them? Edited March 23, 2005 by InlineTurbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfish Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Interesting to note that once again the Republicans remain the party of liberty and of life. Democrats remain the party of abortion, euthanasia, assisted suicide – the party of death! Unless of course that person is a terrorist or other society ne'er do well, than they will fight to protect that dirtbag with fervor. Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." -- Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Just like to add that the state is not deciding. He husband made the call, not the state. That was Texas and a 6month old and that was last week. And no one even noticed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 i say let her dye←And what color will we be using today, Greg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 The husband was offered anything he wanted to let the parents take care of her. A divorce, all movie or book rights, all the money, everything and he turned it down. I agree this is a case between the parents, husband and the law. Unfortunately the state is deciding she should die on heresay from a person who rememberd the conversation many years after the fact. That is pretty weak. Also many doctors don't agree she is a vegetable. Enough that there is reasonable doubt. Her parents are willing to take care of her. Why is that so hard just to let them?←What happens when her parents die and the money runs out? Why should she not be granted the right (terri) to move on to heaven (assuming there is one). I don't even care if they talked about not wanting to be like that (husband and terri) I think she should have the curtesy to die, not by starvation however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Interesting to note that once again the Republicans remain the party of liberty and of life. Democrats remain the party of abortion, euthanasia, assisted suicide – the party of death! Unless of course that person is a terrorist or other society ne'er do well, than they will fight to protect that dirtbag with fervor. Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains." -- Winston Churchill←Yes and no. I do believe the parties change when they need to. Lets say abortion is a hot topic now (oh wait it is.) If the democrats had a smart runner for president I bet he would say he is against abortion.(he would have alot of support from the pro-lifers) People can say all they want about liberalism and conservativeism(sp?) but no party concretely holds true to those stereotypes. If they did elections would be even harder than they already are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Just like to add that the state is not deciding. He husband made the call, not the state. That was Texas and a 6month old and that was last week. And no one even noticed that.←Yes and no, I think. I was pretty sure he said he wanted the tube out but the court ordered it to actually happen. (Opposing the parents) So yeah the husband decided to do it officiallu but the court had to order because there are lawyers involved.-- Thats what I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Yes and no, I think. I was pretty sure he said he wanted the tube out but the court ordered it to actually happen. (Opposing the parents) So yeah the husband decided to do it officiallu but the court had to order because there are lawyers involved.-- Thats what I heard.←Yes but they ordered the hospital to carry out his wishes. Your talking chicken egg here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Chicken egg hehe. Yeah I Just wanted to clarify that the husband did order it, but the court made it happen in theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 Chicken egg hehe. Yeah I Just wanted to clarify that the husband did order it, but the court made it happen in theory.←I ordered a soft steak taco at taco bell today. The taco bell wench made it happen, but it was not her decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 23, 2005 Report Share Posted March 23, 2005 (edited) Good analogy taco whench ahaha Edited March 23, 2005 by 550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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