mAydAy Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Very interesting stuff. As far as balance stuff, I just wanted to add I've ridden in VAVolvo's 850 N/A and had it oversteer, due to some trailbraking and the like. -Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted April 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Very interesting stuff. As far as balance stuff, I just wanted to add I've ridden in VAVolvo's 850 N/A and had it oversteer, due to some trailbraking and the like. -Andy←What was his setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAydAy Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 1994 850GLT N/A Removed A/C and other weight reductionNot sure of tires but they're so-so, decent on the 15" bbs-ish wheelsEibachs, Bilstein HD's, iPd bars, OMP brace-Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange850t Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Don't care, and don't need to keep the front swaybar from doing the left-right shimmy. The beefed up swaybar links with the protper washers (thanks to slater) should take care of that. by the way he person who is afraid of wrenching on their bars will not give a Darn about this upgrade.I like it, make it @250 bucks or so (not including the links) and we would probably have a deal. I don't care to bandaid my handling, I'm talking turn in folks. You can set up the corner perfect but if you flick the wheel and the car dives against you your screwed.Drank too much, getting too pasionate about handling. Should just buy a 911 and be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted April 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 1994 850GLT N/A Removed A/C and other weight reductionNot sure of tires but they're so-so, decent on the 15" bbs-ish wheelsEibachs, Bilstein HD's, iPd bars, OMP brace-Andy←So with full IPD sways he was getting brake induced oversteer?Turbos have more understeer due to more weight up front for the turbo stuff. That's one of the reaons why Volvo put the larger rear bar on the turbo models.I wonder what IPD assumed when they designed their kit? Lighter N/A or front-heavier turbos? Probably the N/A. If so, with the same kit on a turbo model you will get more understeer than on an N/A using the IPD kit. If they designed it for the turbos the N/As would have less udersteer which I'll bet they didn't want.hmmmm- Slater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorBleemo Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Sorry to post a newbie question and bring this thread out of the depths of the ocean but......would the best combo for decreasing roll and reducing understeer on a '95 Turbo sedan be (as stated) the IPD rear and R front? And am I correct in thinking that Volvos tend to understeer, especially turbo models?And another person said that most cars understeer because the majority of the populous can't drive properly. I'm a newbie driver (only had a license for two years) and I'm not sure if cancelling the understeer would be too dangerous. Or would I be pleasently surprised after I got used to it. I don't know very much about performance driving but am eager and willing to learn. Comments?Thanks! -Por Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve s Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 use ur common sense and less understeer wouldn't be too bad.. just be carefulipd didn't assume much... at least, no initially anyway i don't think. they had two packages when they first got the 850. sport and touring. sport: 25mm front 25mm rear. touring: 25 mm front 22 mm rear. both sets broke the rear bar. so they gave up on the 25mm rear and stuck with the 22mm rear...which as many of u know, still causes a lot of breakages.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted June 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Sorry to post a newbie question and bring this thread out of the depths of the ocean but......would the best combo for decreasing roll and reducing understeer on a '95 Turbo sedan be (as stated) the IPD rear and R front? And am I correct in thinking that Volvos tend to understeer, especially turbo models?And another person said that most cars understeer because the majority of the populous can't drive properly. I'm a newbie driver (only had a license for two years) and I'm not sure if cancelling the understeer would be too dangerous. Or would I be pleasently surprised after I got used to it. I don't know very much about performance driving but am eager and willing to learn. Comments?Thanks! -Por←Holy back from the dead thread Batman!Your idea is close. If you want the MOST reduction in understeer it wouild be the IPD rear and BASE model front (i.e. 20mm front).However, VMS has not released their bars yet, so the above is only true assuming they don't release a larger rear bar than IPD.However, if you have only been driving for 2 years I would recommend installing the IPD kit as-is - IPD front AND rear bar. They are designed to work together. The mix n match approach is more for advanced chassis tuners and people with more driving experience, both on the track and off.If you only use the IPD rear bar with the stock front bar, I am sorry to say the first time you hit some black ice or hydroplane you will more than likely be shopping for a new car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orange850t Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Holy back from the dead thread Batman!←Somebody knows how to use the search function.....!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 So would that make the understeer drastically more noticeable? As it is I think the car handles comfortably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slater Posted June 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 So would that make the understeer drastically more noticeable? As it is I think the car handles comfortably.←Would what make the understeer drastically more noticeable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebor Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 If you only use the IPD rear bar with the stock front bar, I am sorry to say the first time you hit some black ice or hydroplane you will more than likely be shopping for a new car.←It's not the ice, or the rain that gets you. It's the light pole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeskier8585 Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 wow, i wonder if he walked away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebor Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 wow, i wonder if he walked away...←Why yes, I was just fine. Out a couple grand, and a Volvo, and plenty pissed. No injuries whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorBleemo Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Would what make the understeer drastically more noticeable?←The IPD sway bars. Some people say that they will.Why yes, I was just fine. Out a couple grand, and a Volvo, and plenty pissed. No injuries whatsoever.←Quiet you. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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