daddynemo30 Posted September 1, 2015 Report Share Posted September 1, 2015 I have a b4204t2 motor. Ive got my stage 0 done, red ph2 injectors, mbc, and will have my exhaust in the next week or so. I know the honest bolt up turbo upgrade is the 14t. My question before i go ahead and do it is, what all would i have to do to fit a 16t or 19t? And what kind of increase would i see by doing either. I love this car so far. I cant stay away from it. From retrofitting projectors to fogs, to changing out any and all bulbs i come across to leds, to just disassembling interior trim to detail cracks and crevices. Im only at 110k, and she runs great. But im wondering if i will be content with the 14t swap for long. Ultimately, id like to do the whole 5spd/AWD swap but that can wait.Also, ive heard evo III parts fit, suspension wise. Which parts exactly?And last, what is a good flowing fmic and maybe dimensions that work without pressure drop. This is more or less addressed to those that have one.Thanks for any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welditup Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 I'd go with 16t if you don't like lag and prefer eefficiently. With a 19t you will need a progressive boost controller and low boost. 19t is great with keeping intake charge temps low but our stock rods cant handle the full potential of the 19t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddynemo30 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Awesome thanks. Now what besides the turbo do i need to do and will it bolt straight up? And what does one that bolts up vome off of. Every google search i find says s40concepts, and its dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddynemo30 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Awesome thanks. Now what besides the turbo do i need to do and will it bolt straight up? And what does one that bolts up vome off of. Every google search i find says s40concepts, and its dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clean00 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 s40concepts was the original S/V40 forum. It then changed to 30forty50, and now is apparently merged with v70R.com. The biggest difference between the 14T and the 16/19T is the exhaust turbine. The 16T and 19T would need an adaptor plate to fit the manifold, or, you'd need to source a T5 manifold and chop off a cylinder to allow it to bolt-on. You'll need to modify the downpipe, as well as the plumbing for oil and coolant. it's been done with success, but the tuning is going to ultimately hold back the performance from reaching its true potential with one of those turbos. If you're looking for better than 14T performance in a bolt-on setup, buy a used 12T and have it machined out to fit a larger compressor wheel and turbine wheel. They can also port the exhaust housing for better flow (i'd match the manifold as well and get rid of the twin-scroll setup). You can also enlarge the wastegate a bit and fit a larger flapper, or weld it shut and have a provision made for an external wastegate. A purpose built hybrid 12T/14T can make upwards of 250whp if the supporting mods are there. Check out Kenny's, aka FIREBOLT's hybrid with a ported inlet and Big 16G wheel. http://v70r.com/forums/topic/53452-what-did-you-do-your-x40-today/?p=152209 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddynemo30 Posted September 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Fricken love this guy. Clean i wish you were local dude. If google dont know, you do.thanks for the tips. Will check out thread after work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clean00 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Also. On the front mount. If you have an 01' or newer, you'll need to weld a bung onto the intercooler to throttle body pipe for the map and iat sensor, as well as a port for the IAC valve. If you have a 00', you'll only need a bung for the iat sensor, and a port for the IAC valve. You'd want them spaced relative to the stock location, so measure from the throttle body to the sensor location on the stock intercooler, and that is roughly how far they should be mounted from the throttle body. In either case, you'll also need to relocate and mount the trans cooler as it is part of the intercooler setup. Otherwise, if you have the $$$ and time, i'd forgo the fmic idea and hacking the bumper support to fit, and go with a drop-in design like available on europeantuning.nl http://www.europeantuningshop.nl/index.php?route=product/product&path=1663_1782&product_id=5213 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEU Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Or you could just buy a 19t already to mount on your s40. No need to make anything when you can bolt it on. VOLVO S40 V40 TD04L-19T Twin Scroll 250HP by Kinugawa. I've been running several of there parts on my 19t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clean00 Posted September 2, 2015 Report Share Posted September 2, 2015 Or you could just buy a 19t already to mount on your s40. No need to make anything when you can bolt it on. VOLVO S40 V40 TD04L-19T Twin Scroll 250HP by Kinugawa. I've been running several of there parts on my 19t. You could. But you still can't tune the thing to maximize the potential of that setup. And honestly, i wouldn't let a 19T near a 4cyl whiteblock without at least some upgraded con rods. You're asking for trouble with a 19T unless your motor and tune can handle. Carlos used to run a 16T...for about 6 months before it fried his motor. Tuning on the 40 series is a whole different animal. Siemens ecu is very different than Bosch and nobody stateside is tuning them. Everything is done via chip tuning and there is no flash option available. Standalone is the only way to really get it with a 40 series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEU Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 OP wanted a bolt on 19t. I was just correcting your post, stating that you don't have to make anything as Kinugawa makes a bolt on a 19t. Tuning is a whole different thing that he'd have to deal with on any turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clean00 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 OP wanted a bolt on 19t. I was just correcting your post, stating that you don't have to make anything as Kinugawa makes a bolt on a 19t. Tuning is a whole different thing that he'd have to deal with on any turbo. You're correct on the kinugawa 19T option bolting on. However, tuning a 40 series with that setup is way different than tuning a P80 or even a P2. There is no readily available mapping for such a setup in the US. It's hard enough getting a tune for a stock setup on the 40 series, a standalone is the best tuning option period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEU Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 If that's the case why mention the others that have modified a 16t or 16g? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEEKAY Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 I read it as a deterrent with the Carlos frying his engine bit :/Xcites does your hybrid need a tune or is it good to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1clean00 Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Because ultimately it's closer to what the vehicle can handle and what has been done with success. There are not a ton of 19T/12T 40 series running around i can tell you that. Even Autotech doesn't tune the T4 models to more than 250hp and 300ftlb. Which is a stock turbo with downpipe, intake, and tune. A hybrid 12T will push a little over that mark, but that is about as far as tuning support ends. So if you went a 19T route you'd effectively need to detune, or turn down the boost to keep it reliable for very long. Warren has a custom road tuned MTE tune i believe with his hybrid. Which is ideal tuning scenario vs. chip tuning over the interwebs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theForgottenone Posted September 3, 2015 Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 You could. But you still can't tune the thing to maximize the potential of that setup. And honestly, i wouldn't let a 19T near a 4cyl whiteblock without at least some upgraded con rods. You're asking for trouble with a 19T unless your motor and tune can handle. Carlos used to run a 16T...for about 6 months before it fried his motor. Tuning on the 40 series is a whole different animal. Siemens ecu is very different than Bosch and nobody stateside is tuning them. Everything is done via chip tuning and there is no flash option available. Standalone is the only way to really get it with a 40 series. Personally, Carlos told me in person the reason why he blow up his car after 16T installed was due to lack of fuel (injectors size) prior to tuning. yes, I had custom MTE tune with my hybrid turbo. Honestly, running 16T should be fine as long you have some sort of EBC and upgrade necessary parts (fuel/exhaust/DP/IC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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