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Can anyone explain why various sources say that this bracket must be replaced along with the engine mount #30611474? 

For example: EEuro says "Mount bracket # 30611471 must also be replaced with this mount."

I have a 2004 V40 with 136k miles and I have replaced the mount once but not the bracket... Does it warp or distort over time?

Currently having issues with vibration in cabin and the front right of car just doesn't feel right. I do around 500 miles a week (a lot of highways, but lately ive been driving around on a frozen bumpy construction site) and I am very picky about how my vehicles feel. I notice immediately when things are off. Right now the car is perfectly aligned but it only stays straight on absolutely perfect flat highways or long stretches of road. On even moderately crowned roads the drifting/pulling is incredibly annoying. I've driven other cars on the same roads and the issue is unique to my V40. Also, friends have driven my car and confirmed the issue.

I'm experiencing every one of the following symptoms mentioned on FCP...

Engine Mount Failure Symptoms: 

  • Engine vibration (bad in mornings, especially when cold, gets worse when parked on inclines or declines)
  • Drivetrain vibration (I occasionally hear some unnatural noises coming from front right if I listen very closely while driving, this started recently since I've been doing a lot of driving over bumpy frozen roads and parking at weird angles on a construction site)
  • Uneven engine surface 
  • Engine rock during gear changes (there seems to be more movement than there used to be)
  • Engine rock during braking (this is minimal but definitely different from before)

 Also, my car pulls to the right more than it should, or used to. I'm convinced the mount must be at fault for the following reasons.. 

  • Alignment done January 15th using hunter alignment system, it is spot on. The car pulled before I brought it in, and it was already nearly spot on terms of alignment. Required a few tiny turns of wrench. I spoke with and watched the owner/operator of the shop work and he knows his stuff in terms of alignments, been in business 30 years. That being said, even though the alignment is good, the car still pulls/wanders
  • Tires are fine, I have 3 sets of wheels and 3 sets of tires and symptoms are same with all three, although slightly less annoying with 17 inch wheels that are wider than the stock 15 inch. I am currently using 15 inch steels with good year ultra grips with 35 psi all around. I've tried swapping tires front to back (they're directional) no change.
  • Nearly every front end component is relatively new (less than 2 years old) 
  • Newer parts include: struts (bilstein), springs, all strut parts, axles, inner and outer tie rods, control arms, sway bar links, sway bar bushings, brakes, all engine mounts, subframe bushings, and probably a few things im forgetting. 
  • I've recently gone through and looked for obvious issues in front right area (torn boots, broken bushings, bad joints, etc) and haven't been able to find any. The only thing I noticed was the front right spring looked like it was pretty close to the inside of wheel well. I haven't heard any rubbing so probably no issue. Also, it does sort of look like the engine sits a little lower on the passenger side when looking in the engine bay. 

I don't look forward to spending around $200 on mount and bracket but is there really much else I can do? I spend a ton of time in my car and really like it but this issue is bothering me. Anyone have a similar experience or have any tips in terms of what to check? 

 

 

 

 

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I believe there was an update and it might have changed angles / orientation. You cannot use the ph2 on ph1 without welding I've read. I have both in boxes (new) and can check part #'s for you.

I want to say there is an orientation/angle update to the mount and is why you need a new "partner" bracket to go with it to keep the angle correct.

 

 

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10 hours ago, TEEKAY said:

Ever replace your sway bar bushings?

Yep, totally forgot to mention that. I had a shop do them about 16 months ago.... They dropped the subframe to do it and charged a lot. 

About 12 months after they did bushings I noticed an occasional clunking coming from front right. Upon inspection I found that the bracket which retains the bushing and slides into the subframe had snapped....... Didn't even bother with the shop since it had been a year and I wasn't paying for the subframe to be dropped again. I replaced bushing/bracket myself without dropping subframe. It was tough but hasn't popped out or broken yet. 

Now that I think about it, when I replaced the right bushing the left side was fully tightened down. I actually remember using a pry bar to hold the swaybar down while I tightened the new bracket. Is it possible that I tensioned the sway bar asymmetrically and that is causing issues? 

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

So it appears as though my tires were causing the pulling..... They're Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice's that look perfectly fine but are over 8 years old. I'm guessing the belt(s) are damaged on one of both of the tires on the right sides (they're directional). 

I came to this conclusion earlier when I put my alloys w/newer tires on.... Literally like driving a different car.... Crazy 

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