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Electronic Throttle Bodys (Etm, Eth..Etc) Updated 9/09!


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Hi.

I just got my ETM update at my local Volvo dealer in Norway. The car drives fine, and it seems to be a little quicker and the gearshifts looks like they are doing a little smoother. Also looks like the gas comsumption is a little down.

I'm tuning my car with the PPC unit from BSR in Sweden. The unit automatically detects the ETM tuning and do not wipe it out from the ECU. Just great!

I'm driving "untuned" in the wintertime, but now it's spring time and the summer tires are ready.

To tune my car up to 300 Hp I use 3 minutes with the PPC unit attached to the car.

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Yep....they have to prove to themselves that your ETM is foooobarred before they'll replace it for free.

Exactly what I was told as well. My car, '99 XC70, was having idle problems and a surging problem when accelerating. Volvo did the software upgrade which corrected the idle problem but the surging is still present. By surging I mean that car while accelerating will hit an RPM level say 2800 and then oscillate quickly between 2800 and 2500 RPM for a few seconds. The only way to get it to stop is to momentarily back off the throttle. This is a bit of a concern when trying to accelerate into a travel lane on the highway for example. The dealer believes that the ETM probably needs to be replaced to correct this BUT the car is showing no codes SO the only option is for ME to pay for the replacement. The dealer is quoting $1600 to do the replacement. Needless to say I am not jumping to spend this kind of money but feel the car is going to strand me someplace. Guess its a waiting game at this point.

-mark

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what cars is this ETM upgrade available for? Also, is there maybe like an official Volvo website that explains what is up with the ETM, and what they are changing?

Go to: http://vexedvolvo.org/

It gives a detailed explanation of the problem and fix, etc.

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I really don't see the purpose of RE 155. Other than Volvo delaying the time to replace the ETM and costing Volvo more money at the end. Couple of days ago, I did a RE155 on a car. The car ran fairly well with no ETM code. I did the download test drive the car for 5 miles, ran great with no problem. Then the customer drove it home and the car stalled out two times. Drove the car back, there were no ETM codes in the computer. But we replace the ETM anyway. That fixed the stalling problem but the car surging at idle. Still no code in the computer, then I was told to install another ETM and the same thing happened. After further test I figured out it was the MAF that's causing the problem. So of course we tried to tell the customer that. But he didn't buy it so at the end we fixed his problem for free. I can't tell you who pay for the $300 MAF but it wasn't me.

So from then on I was told fix any possible ETM problem first before doing the download. So what's the point of doing the download if the problem already "fixed"?

I agree with you guys Volvo really need to just "fix it right the first time".

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Guys,

Just an update.....my UPsolute chip was wiped clean after the dealer downloaded the ETM software.

Sent my ECU to the local UPsolute rep, for the rechip, at no charge.

As soon as I received the ECU, I drove to Pittsburgh Pa for the Easter holidays.

I drive to Pit twice a year, its exactly 778mi from my driveway in Atl to my folks driveway in Pit.

It take about 2 tanks going and 1 and 3/4 returning.....With the 155 reprogram the car gets better gas mileage. Going to Pit i arrived with the guage showing 4 gallon....Returning to Atl the guage reading was 6 gallon.

I use 93 octane and i drive as fast as i think i can get away with, very few cars pass me.

Which brings up another point....the car is definitely faster, when i hit kickdown the car jumps, didn't have that speed before the ETM software.

I'm HAPPY with the results

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Just got mine done...

There wasn't that big of a difference, but from what i could tell...it just doesn't have the same "pick-up" it used to when i gun it from a stop. :(

Maybe it's because i was used to the 2.5T S60 they gave me to drive around while it was in the shop :rolleyes:

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I was so bored i washed the dealer's loaner :(

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I had the RE 155 done during a 120k maintenance. The car feels smoother, but way slower (it won't accelerate so swiftly in high RPMs). It might be just a subjective feeling; or the adaptive logic hasn't learned my style, yet. ;)

However, the engine has stalled since the ugrade once already (once in ~ 200 miles, after a long drive). I feel no surge (the MAF was replaced 3k miles ago), idling is smooth; only when stopping the RPMs sometimes drop to 500. One more stall and the car goes back to the dealer ...

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Very pissed off sweed owner. I just talked to Ken from IPD in regards to them having a solution for updating my ECU. I was told several weeks ago by IPD to go ahead with the ETM recall and get it flashed. IPD said they would be working on a new upgrade to encorporate this download. Now IPD is saying the ETM download is a bogus fix, all it does is flash the ETM so that it won't throw checksum errors, i.e. no more check engine light due to throttle body. So all IPD will do is reflash my ECU to the way it was. Anyone else get this answer from other chip tuners? like RICA.

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Now IPD is saying the ETM download is a bogus fix, all it does is flash the ETM so that it won't throw checksum errors, i.e. no more check engine light due to throttle body.

... and no replacement of throttle body covered by warranty unless there are codes in the computer...

That's a fraud.

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... and no replacement of throttle body covered by warranty unless there are codes in the computer...

That's a fraud.

Wow....VolFord strikes again! :ph34r: :monkey:

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Very pissed off sweed owner. I just talked to Ken from IPD in regards to them having a solution for updating my ECU. I was told several weeks ago by IPD to go ahead with the ETM recall and get it flashed. IPD said they would be working on a new upgrade to encorporate this download. Now IPD is saying the ETM download is a bogus fix, all it does is flash the ETM so that it won't throw checksum errors, i.e. no more check engine light due to throttle body. So all IPD will do is reflash my ECU to the way it was. Anyone else get this answer from other chip tuners? like RICA.

Can anyone else put any truth to this theory?

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Can anyone else put any truth to this theory?

Yes i can, 1999 T5 V70, was stuttering slightly/surging on the motorway (im in the UK)....went to the dealer they gave me the ETM software upgrade..

Drove 100 miles and still stuttering, stopped car, unloaded then drove another 40 miles and the check engine light came on. Went straight to dealer...diagnosed new ETM, car did NOT go into safe mode at all.

Thats my experience in the UK

adrian

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Got my 2001 C70 HPT back from the dealer for the upgrade. I too did not think anything of it but when I pulled out of the dealership it seemed to have a little less turbo lag and a smoother pull from the low end. :D Very nice! Today I put in new plugs and an Eurosport cold air intake. I'll keep you posted. :monkey:

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I had mine done about a month ago and noticed a little difference in taking off but the car still has hesitation when accelerating hard. It was tuned up, new fuel filter, K&N air filter and plugs just before the upgrade and neither thing changed the hisitation. I don't have a code reader so I can't check for any. I haven't taken it back to haggle about an ETM yet and after reading these posts hope that will even be the fix. I also agree that it is just a way for them to stall on replacing the ETM's by changing the way the computer reacts to poor ETM performance, but that's just my theory.

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