Jozone Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Well, after over a year of wanting them, I finally went ahead and purchased my 10w3v2s. I got an incredibly good deal, and I am actually getting the prefab JL enclosure as well. So the final impedance is 4 ohm (havent checked the box out yet), and the subs run 300w rms each.Now the problem currently is, I have a bunch of equipment, but none of it is good enough for these. Currently I have a JL e4300, JL e1200, and a crappy Sony that puts out about ~100w rms. I would probably be looking to sell them all in order to buy a single nice amplifier, and now I have arrived at the question of... what should I get?Currently in the running: JL 500.1 (nice, but expensive, bit more then im looking to spend)JBL 1200.1 (does 600w at 4ohm, only problem is its out of production ~ runs about $250 used)Alpine m500 (Not too sure about this one, is in my price range though)JL e1400 (in my price range, JL, but would be underpowering subs)So basically Im looking for input on what I should get, maybe someone has experience with these subs and can point me in the right direction..Thanks guys..//theres also the minor issue that my volvo isnt currently running <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Currently in the running: JL 500.1 (nice, but expensive, bit more then im looking to spend)←get it.. I have it.. it's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing_0 Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 are you going to rewire the sub so its 1ohm isntead of 4ohms? most of the amps you suggested are optimized for 1.6-2ohm...there are just so many solid 600 watt rms amps out there....want a beefy amp at a pretty good cost? find a autotek stealth 900.2, its a monsterb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozone Posted June 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 Just wanted to say I picked up the subs today and they are incredible... Im significantly underpowering them currently with my JL 1200d and they still sound awesome... now I start putting a side money for a new amp B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggrlee Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 get it.. I have it.. it's awesome.←One of the cool things about the JL "Slash" line and the 500/1 is it's 500 watts RMS whether its a 1,2 or 4 ohm load. Also makes them very hard to fry and a good choice for used amp. Memphis is another good choice IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 One of the cool things about the JL "Slash" line and the 500/1 is it's 500 watts RMS whether its a 1,2 or 4 ohm load. Also makes them very hard to fry and a good choice for used amp. Memphis is another good choice IMO.←Listen to Joe... he knows what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyR Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 I've got a jbl 1200.1 and am very happy with it. Very solid and stable amp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing_0 Posted June 12, 2005 Report Share Posted June 12, 2005 one thing to note: the JL slash amps are rated for 1.5 and higher impedance, not 1 ohm, having said that, they will do okay with a 1 ohm load, since many of the subs register a true 1.5ish load even at a 1ohm load rating, but if the cases where the final impedance is around 1ohm or below 1ohm load, i would high recommend putting a fan on the amp, i have seen a few of the jl slash amps go bad from true 1ohm load ratings...they are solid amps definetly a bit pricey IMO, but solidb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozone Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Everyone I've talked to thus far recommends the JL 500.1, so now Im on the hunt for a used one <$300.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing_0 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 my opinion is still this: JL amps are good, but by no means the only one who is good...i believe any good qualtiy amp of similar wattage sent to the same subs to the same install to the same car will sound relatively the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggrlee Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Everyone I've talked to thus far recommends the JL 500.1, so now Im on the hunt for a used one <$300..←There are other good amps, but for the price I challenge anyone to find one that has all of the following for the same price: .05 % THD and >95dB S/N ratio at 4 ohms, signal sensing power on, the option of remote bass management, balanced inputs, dual outputs, preamp out, etc., and one that will pump 500 watts regardless of input voltage or ohm load. Combine all that with great power rails/thermal protection and a cast aluminum chassis, and you've got a lot of amp for the $$. I've driven my current one long and hard with a 12W6V2 and never had the thermal protection kick in and it's mounted upside down. Subs/sub amps are where JL excels, but their A/B amps are no slouches either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 There are other good amps, but for the price I challenge anyone to find one that has all of the following for the same price: .05 % THD and >95dB S/N ratio at 4 ohms, signal sensing power on, the option of remote bass management, balanced inputs, dual outputs, preamp out, etc., and one that will pump 500 watts regardless of input voltage or ohm load. Combine all that with great power rails/thermal protection and a cast aluminum chassis, and you've got a lot of amp for the $$. I've driven my current one long and hard with a 12W6V2 and never had the thermal protection kick in and it's mounted upside down. Subs/sub amps are where JL excels, but their A/B amps are no slouches either.←See Joe.. You know this forums better.. We talk about real audio mods here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jozone Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 one that will pump 500 watts regardless of input voltage or ohm load.←lol that would be a tough one seeing as the company would need to infringe on JL's patents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing_0 Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 hehe, dont mean to bash you at all, as i agree jl amps are pretty nice, but there are certainly other amps out there that matches the JL's capabiltiies if not better it for similar price...see fo rme, what comes down to it is this, for a sub amp, i dont care about all that fancy stuff, i want power, power and more power, albeit at a flexible ohm load, flat response, and decent damping factor...so...having said that...the main advantage of the JL is its impedance matching capability, whcih like you said, does the same power output regardless of ohm load. while i consider this an advantage for relative newbies or people who chagnes subs often, i dont see it as much of a relavance to those of us who can pick the amp and sub combo that matches each other well to begin with. meaning, if you have determined that your subs will have a final impedance of 1ohm, then you choose a sub amp that does its best at 1ohm...why would the fact that it can put out the same amount at 2 and 4ohm matter? basically, what i am saying is, a lot of fancy nice features are great, but what is most important to me is how the system sounds and how much power it deliveres cleanly...and personally, i think there are many amps out there, though perhaps not having quite as many features as the JL 500/1, can almost double its output, while remaining clean, at similar prices...thats all for sub amps that have a lot of balls for the decent price, i have used and liked :crossfireold school kicker (ZR series)memphis studio seriescadence HC seriesarc audio xxk seriesMmats class Dsold scool mtx thunder seriesautotek stealth and mean machineold school lanzar optidrivethere are some more but i cant remember all of them...here is the question basically i pose to you:what would you rather have? a 300 dolalr amp, or a 500 dollar amp, if both sound the same to your ear? and both are good quality and will last you a long time? speakers, subs, and even to a certain extent, mid/high amps is a totally different story, where i am pretty loyal to a few brands, but when it comes to sub amps, i ahve isntalled probably over 50 different brands of sub amps, and i have come to realized that often, its not he price or the extra features that matter...i remember i did a car wtih a brax 1000 watt amp that retailed for close to 2k back in the day, and it played pretty good, sounded good, out of curiosity, i picked up a kicker zr 600 we had laying around, just to see how it sounded, and to be honest, we couldnt tell the difference, infact, some of the staff thought the kicker sounded better, and it was a bit louder...so...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing_0 Posted June 14, 2005 Report Share Posted June 14, 2005 another thing to note:JL's RIPS system is not patented by JL, infact, its not even JL who originated the design. Years ago, not sure if yall remember, old school PPI amps had essentially the same "shifting" amps, i forgot what the model number was, some DSM i think. THat was back in athe mid to late 90s. I heard that the same engineer who desinged those ppi amps is also the person who designed the RIPS amps for JL...as for the impedance matching thing, there are a few otehr companies who offer essentially the same thing, though via slightly different methods (some manipulate via the powersupply, some the input or output stages)...i cant remember who, but i thing phoenix gold and JBL may have these systems...i think there may be 2-3 others...rememer, i am not bashing JL, just pointing out the facts that their technology is not new, and there are other good amps too b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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