Slightly Lost To New E55t Amg Kompressor

[ChuckV]

IPD ECU+down pipe will be in shortly. With any luck I should be able to get into the 13s then. As soon as they and my summer tires are on I'll hit the track and see if I can help that average at all.

[Guest DougK]

Now thats what I like to hear

Dont worry, I'll have mine in the low 12's soon enough, to "help the average" ;)

[volflo]

wow. sorry gonna take me a week to answer all that stuff.

i have just been afk from friday to monday.

so here are vids (same vid diff quality). friend of mine did it without me knowing.

there is one section on the autobahn. with me going on the bmw filming. at the and of the road works i will slowly accelarate form 80 k to a hundred 100k while the volvo will give full thruttle from 80 up to somewhat 200k +.

the other one is me standing while the volvo passes with 60 to 70 k in third u will hear shifting inot fourth and later into 5th gear at around 180 - 190k.

for those who dont believe my times stated above, take ur stop watch.

http://www.wiwawutzemann.de/vid/volflo_01.wmv

http://www.wiwawutzemann.de/vid/volflo_02.wmv

second one is hi res. sound should be better also.

[volflo]

Joe - you're too Darn negative. I mean, really.

Volflo - Where are you running the intake air from? The inlet in the lower air dam?

it the bsr system with the shielded jr cone. it uses the orig pipe. i only modified slightly incl. removing snow cover. and dremeled the plastic at the front so its more free-breathing. so its no witch-craft.

[volflo]

I can host it for you pyro@themedic.us and ill post the addy once its uled

i mailed it to ur address before i left work on friday. it came back: QUOTA.

anyway now its here. :)

[volflo]

no i dint hit anything. thanks for caring.

and yes it was me. the front bumper is nothing but an empty shell. also crossbar is... where? i dont know, i dont miss it.

i kept the rear bar actually. just because of handling, the rear is amost too light now. with cold tires the rear is really bitchy on the race track.....

[Guest 2g4 S60Rmanual]

Why am I not surprised?

I don't blame you. You are young and impressionable. Perfectly normal for someone your age.

so u believe the driver at question is a liar?

[freeskier8585]

hey those videos are freaken awesome, what kind of muffler is that... o and both vids are the same...

[WiWa]

Hey!

In the next two or three weeks we will make more vids (from out- and inside) and some fotos.

I think we will make a R-Race with 3 R's and a helicopter is following us.

The next vid will be greater und longer.

[NaturalMystic79]

Sounds like BSR exhaust to me.

[J0E]

so u believe the driver at question is a liar?

No, not in the least bit. Judging from his posts, I can clearly tell volflo is not a kid so he really has no reason to fabricate such a story. However, what is in question is the driver of the other car he raced and also his perception on things. Was it really an E55? Was he going full throttle the entire time? Were his balls as big as volflo's to keep the pedal down for an extended period of time? Just how much is losing by "slightly"?

I am in no was questioning the fact that his car is quick. However, a Kompressed V8 Mercedes is in another league in terms of acceleration, especially on the highway where they are simply mind boggling. FWIW, AMS did a comparison test back in 1/02 with an unrestricted SL55 (nearly identical to the E55 in a straight line), a Porsche GT2, Lamborghini Murcielago, Ferrari 550, and Austin Martin Vanquish. In the 0-100 KM/H and 0-200 KM/H, the Mercedes came up mid-pack. But where it blew everyone out of the water was in 0-300, 100-300, and by a significant margin over the next fastest car the Murcielago, in 200-300 KM/H acceleration. To put things into perspective, the Mercedes accelerated from 200-300 KM/H (124-186 MPH) in 18.8 seconds...a full four seconds faster than the Lambo, and a whole nine seconds ahead of the GT2. Keep in mind, I have driven both cars and magazine data proves it as well, the E55 and SL55 as above are pretty much identical.

What's my point? The car he "raced" is quite literally one of the fastest cars money will buy. In order to "keep up" with one the way he described, you will need a car that is equally as impressive. Unfortunately, I do not see such performance coming from this car given the fact that T5 Volvos with similar engine modifications sans weight reduction have yet to break into the 13s at tripple-digit speeds. While weight is a large factor in a car's acceleration off-the-line, on the highway weight does not have as much of an impact. Even then, large amounts of weight reduction in itself will not move the car's peformance level up from that of the average present-day $30K car to the fastest and most expensive Germany and Italy have to offer. Call me a "hater." Call me "negative." But don't dare call me naive. I'm not buying it that easily.

Start running mid-12s @ ~115 or better, then I will be impressed.

[Noahkk19]

Why am I not surprised?

I don't blame you. You are young and impressionable. Perfectly normal for someone your age.

Correct. Charles has broken into the 12s at ~110. But even he will get walked on the highway by an E55. A 6-7 MPH difference in trap speed is significant. To put that into perspective, the difference will be similar to ChuckV's encounter above...about 8 car-lengths from 80-140. The difference between the S60R/RS6 is about the same as Chuck's 850 and an E55: A 6-7 MPH disparity.

Thanks for stereotyping me...

Anyways, that makes sense your whole little trap speed difference explanation, but there's nothin wrong with taking a man's word and not thinking he's dumb enough and doesnt realize a car is not racing him as hard as it can ;)

[ChuckV]

Thanks for stereotyping me...

Anyways, that makes sense your whole little trap speed difference explanation, but there's nothin wrong with taking a man's word and not thinking he's dumb enough and doesnt realize a car is not racing him as hard as it can

You can never tell for sure how hard someone's pushing it without being in the car or talking to them. I don't see any reason for the guy in the E not to push it, but he very well might not have been. If we was, you've got one hell of a car there Volflo.

The usual E55 test drive experience goes something like this:

Driver: "Time to pass this guy only going 60 in the 55 zone"

E55: "ROAR!!!!!"

Driver: "Oh my god! Help!" *Driver manages to collect himself a few seconds later, and looks down at the speedometere to realize that he is already going fast enough to be sent imediately to jail should he be pulled over.*

I've talked to several friends who have test driven, but have yet to do so myself. Their impressions were all along the lines of "Scary fast, especially at speed." "I was still pinned back in the seat when I ran out of traffic free road and had to let off at 145" "That car made me feel like my Z06 is slow" "The passing acceleration in that thing can only be described as time-warping"

The SCed Benz V6s have blown me away (no pun intended) when I've driven them, as has the NAV8 in the CLK55, so I can only imagine what the SCV8 would do. On my to-do list in the near future.

[J0E]

Your friend's reviews could not be any more precise, Chuck. All new Mercedes, relative to their acceleration off-the-line, are very impressive once they get going. That is exactly what they are made for...autobahn acceleration in uber comfort and rock-solid stability. The upper models are simply insane on the highway, be it in NA V8, SC V6, SC V8, or TT V12 form. Hit kickdown at 60 in a new supercharged 55 AMG or 600, and by the time to gather yourself back together from the sensation as if you were rear-ended by a locomotive, the speedometer is flying passed 120. In short acceleration bursts in gaps of light traffic, where my C70 would hit 90 and I'd let off, a similar burst in an SL55 would run you up to 140+ requiring you to slam on the brakes since you are coming up so fast on traffic. When the speed governor kicks in at ~155, you are literally thrown foreword in your seat because even at that speed, the car is still accelerating very hard. The sensation can only be described as the hand of God pushing you forward. These cars simply gobble up highway miles since accelerating at such speed is so effortless and comfortable. As notes in the test above, the SL55 slaughtered it's closest competitors on the top-end: The fastest factory cars Lamborghini and Porsche produce.

[jross]

Speaking as a former Mercedes owner (and how I wish I'd had a newer one.. I was stuck with one of the S-class's older NA V8's, but I don't mind too much ), Mercedes has always had insane mid-range, at least on their higher-end cars. They're not always nuts off the line -- I remember spanking a SL500 when the new ones came out, but mostly because the driver let off at 80. Having driven / been in alot of the newer Mercs, they're only getting stronger and stronger, and their tradiational strongest has always been mid-range. Every Merc I've driven flew like a bat out of f*cking h*ll when you hit the gas on the freeway, and it's a d*mn good thing the brakes on those were as big as they were. I know I never would have quit driving mine if the Darn upkeep hadn't been so ridiculous (and that's what steered me away from BMW and to Volvo).

Wow, I can't believe I'm agreeing with Joe... I've been up too long, I think :D