Legbend Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 warmer air is down at the pavement (radiation from pavement, counterintuitive i know).........mount the intercooler on the roof :D ←It'd be nice to mount it in the top grill... like the WRC WRX... Link to Pic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lax01 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 seems to work for Mitsu rally anyways, good luck Zulu and let us know how it turns out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DougK Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 It seems that it would. Lower down thus colder air and it has far more access to the air because it isn't squeezed in there behind radiator. Colder air all around. However, the air might be heated more than usual, considering how freaking hot it looks FMIC style. And yes, aluminum pipes all the way.←'cept the amount of surface area on a OEM sized intercooler (not saying OEM or in teh OEM position though) makes that a MUCH better idea.Atleast do yourself a favor, get an air intake temp sensor and do some before and afters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legbend Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 seems like the best setup would be a Atech (or other OEM replacement) mounted in front the condensor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 seems like the best setup would be a Atech (or other OEM replacement) mounted in front the condensor?← we'll soon find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DougK Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 seems like the best setup would be a Atech (or other OEM replacement) mounted in front the condensor?←I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreo931 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 dont be arseholes im just trying to learn!!!!! im sorry for being a nub! someone offer me a nice explanation without any insults! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 dont be arseholes im just trying to learn!!!!! im sorry for being a nub! someone offer me a nice explanation without any insults!← and FMIC is a front mount intercooler, which takes place of the stock intercooler (something NA cars don't have) . The point is to take pressurized hot air, run it through the intercooler and cool it down, then introduce it to gas and BOOM.. colder more dense air, means more power. In theory, an FMIC is going to allow the air to be cooled more, since it's in the direct path of the ambient air passing over it, as you drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreo931 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Thank you...now can you explain to me why non-turbo cars dont have the ability to possess an intercooler? is it because it deals directly with the turbo itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Thank you...now can you explain to me why non-turbo cars dont have the ability to possess an intercooler? is it because it deals directly with the turbo itself?←Yup.. your car takes air from outside, and introduces it to fuel.. hence the "NA" There's no need for an intercooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreo931 Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Theoretically speaking, if the air was colder wouldnt that make a difference because it would be more compact and it could produce more power? or is this just a silly inconcievable dream?What limits one from putting a turbo in a non turbo car?i know these are simple, easy questions but im a beginning enthusiast so just bear with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Theoretically speaking, if the air was colder wouldnt that make a difference because it would be more compact and it could produce more power? or is this just a silly inconcievable dream?hence the sale of CIA's to the billions of honda guys.What limits one from putting a turbo in a non turbo car?i know these are simple, easy questions but im a beginning enthusiast so just bear with me.←the hassle, money, cost, headache.. it's easier to just get a turbocharged car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javadoc Posted June 13, 2005 Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 The air compressed by the turbo heats it up more than you would ever normally see in a naturally aspirated engine, so no you really wouldn't see any gain for an n/a car. See, simply put, a byproduct of compressing the air is friction, which results in heat. It's been a while since I was in my college physics classes, but that's one of the reasons for the added heat that you're not going to see in an n/a environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Could somebody provide me with the efficiency graph of the Atech or these OEM replacement cores?And I don't see how mounting it in OEM position is more efficient than FMIC as OEM is closer to engine among other components that would heat the area. But yeah, since most high performance cars mount their ICs behind condensor.."What I think we can say conclusively is that the Volvo intercooler poses a restriction as the power level rises, and that a higher flowing or more efficient intercooler would be desirable. Preferably one that is front mounted. Even the Volvo intercooler would do better front mounted, but you might have to relocate the AC condenser."-A guy from TurboBricks quoting an article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted June 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2005 Also here, to give you guys an idea of gains/efficiency of the OEM vs. Spearco. I just need to see the aftermarket OEM replacements now.http://personal.linkline.com/dbarton/SpecS...tml#intercooler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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