Zulu Posted July 15, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 It's hard to say which setup will work more effectively. I do remember "Sasso" recently switched from a Atech intercooler to a Spearco front mount setup and said "All I can say is now 10 PSI is what use to feel like about 15, I love the new setup." His core size is L21"/W3"/H8. This is similar to what i'm going to run, mainly because I can't bring myself to spend 1K on a fuukin intercooler.Now, he is also running a much more efficient turbo... Most people on here, including myself, are pushing a lot of boost though a very small turbo. This is creating a LOT of extra heat, both from the compressor being well out of it's efficiency range and from the tiny little turbine. I know that very few will venture into t3/t4 land because of cost etc.. but this will help get a much cooler charge, as well as free up things on the exhaust side.Man I want my new turbo... anyone care to make a donation to the "Help Mark get a fast brick fund"?!?!?←Exactly why I said 9lbs feels better than 15 now. I don't have the extra heat however as I'm not pushing high, high boost for the stock turbo...am swapping sometime in the next couple months I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DougK Posted July 15, 2005 Report Share Posted July 15, 2005 ...you just don't quit do you? Simple logic...there is evidence that both of us are right, so what the hell are you trying to say? Have you had a FMIC on a Volvo, or rather this specific one...or are you just making assumptions without information to back it? People assume things based on experience all the time and are wrong, I don't see how you can shut this out and insult me.←Yes I have. I've used small and short and tall and thin shoved to the front most part of the car before.If you keep thinking and posting like its the end all of intercooler design/solutions you'd be foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted July 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 Yes I have. I've used small and short and tall and thin shoved to the front most part of the car before.If you keep thinking and posting like its the end all of intercooler design/solutions you'd be foolish.←Eh, you insulted me by saying simple logic was too difficult of a concept for me...so it seemed, but whatever. I don't think it's an end to designs as there is always one better, I just feel that mine is a step above others, just as there are surely others above mine. But thank you, I try not to be a sheep.well...he got off his bum long enough to drive to a shop and have someone else do something...←LOL. Says the guy with a couple bolt-ons, the guy who fits perfectly into the 'Sheep' definition that Doug was speaking of, the guy sitting at his house making flames and wrong statements in the performance section. I took the car apart and put it back together, I helped with the design...Sorry I didn't weld it all, bend the pipes, etc...unlike you who apparently forged his own sways, brace, etc. along with the nuts and bolts used on them AND installed them all by himself! WOO. Where's the K&N filter?...tough install, I know (shop did it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelostartof Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 ←because he didn't build and install his own 3" exhaust system, and custom fit a NPR intercooler in his car?, or custom intake setup, or custom strut brace ... or help w/ a custom EMS.... he pretty much knows nothing about cars... you don't know much about pat nor what him and his bro have done w/ volvos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nebor Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 I'm about to start hauling people out of this thread by their ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted July 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 because he didn't build and install his own 3" exhaust system, and custom fit a NPR intercooler in his car?, or custom intake setup, or custom strut brace ... or help w/ a custom EMS.... he pretty much knows nothing about cars... you don't know much about pat nor what him and his bro have done w/ volvos←>_> how he talks on the forum and the information he provides makes him look bad just reinforce that with his pointless flames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 You need to paint this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 You need to paint this←agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping138 Posted July 16, 2005 Report Share Posted July 16, 2005 I have done engione work and body work on many cars, and design work as well, believe me the two are not mutually exclusive, i have a good friend who is a structural engineer who cant build anything to save his life.....get it?all that aside, Yes 98Brick i do have AC delete, hacksaw style, did it in my garage in about 3 hours, its easy and leaves more room for the stock intercooler, (or whatever intercooler you are willing to DIE defending....sheeesh!) Its a mildly noticable bump in response time from the throttle, but after that 17psi chip and RIP kit i went from beating my friends cars to SLAYING them all, so i cant say for sure how much it helped as I did it with other mods more or less all at once.Zulu you misunderstood my earlier post about cost, it just seemed to me that you were saying your mod cost more(not that that has anything to do with performance) my point was that I was looking onto a FMIC as a Cheaper alternative to ATECH.Doug, your car is hot.Kevin, cant you shoot this thread like a lame horse or something, at least until there is real data.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 You need to paint this←Yeah, I'm doing service repairs (mounts, hubs, etc.) on the whole car than work on those engine details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 I have done engione work and body work on many cars, and design work as well, believe me the two are not mutually exclusive, i have a good friend who is a structural engineer who cant build anything to save his life.....get it?all that aside, Yes 98Brick i do have AC delete, hacksaw style, did it in my garage in about 3 hours, its easy and leaves more room for the stock intercooler, (or whatever intercooler you are willing to DIE defending....sheeesh!) Its a mildly noticable bump in response time from the throttle, but after that 17psi chip and RIP kit i went from beating my friends cars to SLAYING them all, so i cant say for sure how much it helped as I did it with other mods more or less all at once.Zulu you misunderstood my earlier post about cost, it just seemed to me that you were saying your mod cost more(not that that has anything to do with performance) my point was that I was looking onto a FMIC as a Cheaper alternative to ATECH.Doug, your car is hot.Kevin, cant you shoot this thread like a lame horse or something, at least until there is real data....←With cost there are ways to have a FMIC cost less as with anything, but if done with a good intercooler (spearco) and a good shop/welder it could equal or surpass the cost of an Atech setup...costing 900-1200 (I think?). But of course, we'd be talking retails and not having friends in the business of welding, etc.Kevin, feel free to kill it, I'll post the data in another thread when I have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennybridge pioneer Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 >_> how he talks on the forum and the information he provides makes him look bad just reinforce that with his pointless flames.←you keep talking about mystical "data" take your car to the track. then compare it to a s70 t5m with the stock intercooler and proper fueling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 you keep talking about mystical "data" take your car to the track. then compare it to a s70 t5m with the stock intercooler and proper fueling.←:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ping138 Posted July 17, 2005 Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 I would be interested to see if you even beat JHE with his stock intercooler and no chip 850....where you at track times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted July 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2005 I would be interested to see if you even beat JHE with his stock intercooler and no chip 850....where you at track times←track will be wednesday hopefully if i can drive, :wisdom teeth get pulled: tuesday understock boost, clutchless monster.i'll ask joe if he's free tonight. his ultra weight-reduced, turbo-blowing beast vs. my under-stock boost, clutchless monster :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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