Speedtuning Chip

[RAzOR]

I would ask Oliver to cover the next day shipping.

I'm not sure what happened to your old ECU but if you still have it, use it. Then send the other back to Oliver and get a refund. I wouldn't stand for this waiting around for him to sell it. Also, Oliver has been at this a while. He should know whether an ECU will work or not. This seems to be a clear ST screw up and he should make it right ASAP.

FWIW, my Upsolute map wasn't any better or worse than my ST one or my SAM one. They're all about the same in my experience so price does matter.

Bottom Line: ST should make it right as quickly as possible. That's how I treat my customers and that's how I expect them to treat me.

[Slater]

FWIW: Earlier this year, Oliver helped me a lot with my ECU. He sent me out the socket and EEPROMS with instructions. I did a nice job but f'd it up when I soldered the socket into the wrong holes on the board. Removing the socket without destroying it destroyed my board instead. I sent the whole mess back to Oliver who fixed it for $100. Runs great now.

I am surprised that this happened. I would call Oliver directly and explain the situation. He should take care of you. Though from the sounds of it, they screwed up this group buy pretty badly.

IF Slater is correct (and I'm not sure he is) about the ECU's being the same, then Oliver should be able to FedEx you out a new EEPROM next day air. You can install it yourself, it's pretty easy and takes about 15-30 minutes (working slowly) for a newbie. I could do it in 5 minutes now using just a Torx driver and a flathead screwdriver.

Good Luck. P.S. Hit up Oliver for a free stock map EEPROM. That way, if you ever need to run a stock map, you can pop it in. He charged me $3 for the extra EEPROM.

Yes, I am. If you do a search you will see that EOBD has pointed this out many times.

by the way, Oliver does NOT socket the ECU by default, he solders the chip directly to the board. You have to pay an extra $50 to have it socketed which is ridiculous in my book as it makes installation and uninstallation easier, and you do not rick damaging the PROM by soldering. A 28 and 32-pin soket runs about $0.50.

I just called Oliver. He thought the US-spec ECU would work in my car without any problems because it worked on other T-5R's in the US . I explained to him that there are some differences like for example the EGR system which I don't have. He was surprised to know that. Anyway, he told me to ship the ECU back to him and he'll try to sell it to someone else. He said he wouldn't be able to score a E-spec ECU for my car and his software might not work with it. He also said when he put a 95 ECU on a 96 car, it threw the same codes I had (Does anyone know about that?).

Conclusion: I'll have two options after he sells the ECU. Either get my money back or chipping an ECU from a 96 or 97 850 (non-EGR), but he's not sure if it will work 100% right

A 96-97 ECU will not work. NO US ECU will work because non-US cars do not have rear O2 sensors either. Yes, the 96-97 does not have EGR but it DOES have a rear O2. You need a REAL Euro spec chip, because no Euro spec car has an EGR or rear O2 - that is US emmissions BS.

So bottom line is if you get a 96-97 non-EGR US spec chip, you will still throw codes.

[Trunks850R]

has anyone here delt with rene with upsolute in north carolina. hes not a bit of help after the sale. hey will that ST UEC work on my 95 T5? or will the fact that mine is not a R keep it from working. im not happy with upsolute chip. it would also be nice if i could have 2 ecu's. you guys think i could steal it from oliver since he acts like hes gotta sell quick?

[RAzOR]

Bottom Line: Oliver needs to fix it and fast.

Slater: Oliver told me that the socket is neccessary because of either to protect their maps from being duplicated and/or to talk properly to the board, the socket is neccessary to "decryp" the EEPROM. Without the socket, the EEPROM will not work.

NOW, he could be completely sh!tting me. It does make business sense to use a dcryp socket to protect from such an easy thing as duplicating EEPROM data which does indeed cost just a few bucks. I suspect Oliver has a point with the socket because if one could simply duplicate maps with an EEPROM programmer, I think dirt cheap, do-it-yourself remapping it would be much more rampant that I have seen.

I have reached the limit of my knowledge on the ECU mapping.

[Trunks850R]

I'm sure Rica would be better than Upsolute or Speedtuning. Hell, i've been waiting for 6 weeks for a response from Upsolute about a possible remap. I think they simply forgot about me.

Another one of the reasons i'm going to an EMS.

oh yeah, thats funny, i sent rene w/ upsolute a email about getting a remap. no reply. then a week later sent him a email about getting a friend of mines honda done and BOOM, 2 hours later he emails me back with a price and everything i needed to know. :angry:

[the underlørd]

oh yeah, thats funny, i sent rene w/ upsolute a email about getting a remap. no reply. then a week later sent him a email about getting a friend of mines honda done and BOOM, 2 hours later he emails me back with a price and everything i needed to know.

which is exactly why people pay IPD 750 bucks.. call 'em up, pay, and they're on top of it! - you can't argue with thier ability to take care of the customer.

ps - nice to see you on the right forum. :P

[JHEIII874T5M]

Rene at upsolute is usually pretty responsive, but lately he has been slacking. I suggest you go on upsolute's site and find your local representative. They will handle you right. My guy is always able to turn around cars in 1 night. :)

[Trunks850R]

i think next time i got to atlanta for the weekend il just leave my car with the guy down there. someone told me he was okay

[BlackT5]

My local Upsolute reps are a bunch of nubs

[Trunks850R]

but does anyone think xrazorx's ECU would work on my T5? its a 95 and its got a egr. my upsolute was suppose to be set at 15 and its run rich ever since i got it. rene is no help whatsoever, but like i said id love to have 2 ecu's if i could get it cheap

[the underlørd]

My local Upsolute reps are a bunch of nubs

you know how easy it is to become an upsolute dealer? lol...

[Trunks850R]

what sucks is im getting a 3 inch down pipe next week and it might thow everything off with my chip right? i would have to get a remap wouldn i?

i just wish i knew then what i know now when i had my car chipped and my turbo replaced :angry:

[the underlørd]

what sucks is im getting a 3 inch down pipe next week and it might thow everything off with my chip right? i would have to get a remap wouldn i?

i just wish i knew then what i know now when i had my car chipped and my turbo replaced

not necessarily.... Dyno and show everyone your AFR's when you're done.

which DP are you getting?

[Trunks850R]

not necessarily.... Dyno and show everyone your AFR's when you're done.

which down pipe are you getting?

i know a guy who owns a exhaust shop, all he does is custom work. he swears up and down he'll have no problem making me one. hes gonna do 3 inch till after where the convertor is suppose to be then go 2.5 the rest of the way. think he can do it right? ive seen his work, hes Darn good. i use to do some custom work(nothing special other than duals on a truck or something) when i worked for midas.

[the underlørd]

i know a guy who owns a exhaust shop, all he does is custom work. he swears up and down he'll have no problem making me one. hes gonna do 3 inch till after where the convertor is suppose to be then go 2.5 the rest of the way. think he can do it right? ive seen his work, hes Darn good. i use to do some custom work(nothing special other than duals on a truck or something) when i worked for midas.

nice work.. custom is the way...