Lotus Engine

[exexpat]

I was in Gremany in the 80's as a kid. Living in Stutgrat and the biggest building in the city was What?

VW, AUDI , PORSCHE factory, this is before they moved porsche off site. But VAG still has them, they pay for all the martketing and reserech.

I was just there. The biggest buildings in the DaimlerChrylser industrial center. The Porsche buildings are somewhat disappointing in comparison. Production scale would dictate operational size. Daimler trumps Porsche in the respect in every sense of the term.

Lassen wir jetzt das weiter auf Deutsch argumentieren. Ich kenne mich schon sehr gut in Stuttgart aus, und du? Ich koennte sogar auf schwaebisch mit dir sprechen, du weisst gar nichts. Du sollst lieber aufgeben. Ganz ehrlich.

[matt1122]

I think he gave up.

[gaterp]

http://www.research-racing.de/Lotus78-G.htm

Ford V8s all the way through. The Type 78 and type 79 were also known as Lotus-Ford 78 and 79 because of the use of FORD V8s

One more

http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/lotus79.htm

It is quite evident that we are wasting our time with you. I, for one, am done.

I never said it was working racing engine maybe F2/3 , but for all the people that said FORD does not have a stake in lotus , with engine configs , I think you just proved then wrong, and it sets well with the lotus delevoment of the 5/ 850 engine, sorry, if somebody is right , and I am on the lotus thing, I know, if you want the white paper I can wait till my uncle dies. Top S.....

I was just there. The biggest buildings in the industrial center. The Porsche buildings are somewhat disappointing in comparison. Production scale would dictate operational size. Daimler trumps Porsche in the respect in every sense of the term.

Lassen wir jetzt das weiter auf Deutsch argumentieren. Ich kenne mich schon sehr gut in Stuttgart aus, und du? Ich koennte sogar auf schwaebisch mit dir sprechen, du weisst gar nichts. Du sollst lieber aufgeben. Ganz ehrlich.

DaimlerChrylser did not exist in the 80's

[matt1122]

I never said it was working racing engine maybe F2/3 , but for all the people that said FORD does not have a stake in lotus , with engine configs , I think you just proved then wrong, and it sets well with the lotus delevoment of the 5/ 850 engine, sorry, if somebody is right , and I am on the lotus thing, I know, if you want the white paper I can wait till my uncle dies. Top S.....

the only non-racing collaboration with Lotus by Fordr was for the Cortina and that was back in the 60s.

Read what I said! Non-racing! PAY ATTENTION. The only person being proven wrong here is you - again, and again, and again.

[exexpat]

DaimlerChrylser did not exist in the 80's

You mean the merger did not take place before or during the 1980's. Daimler has existed in Stuttgart since the turn of the 20th century and even in the 1980's they would have had the biggest buildings in Stuttgart.

Du sollscht ja nischt so viel trinkele - schwabish German dialect.

[gaterp]

Read what I said! Non-racing! PAY ATTENTION. The only person being proven wrong here is you - again, and again, and again.

Lotus and vovlo , what are you talking about?

You mean the merger did not take place before or during the 1980's. Daimler has existed in Stuttgart since the turn of the 20th century and even in the 1980's they would have had the biggest buildings in Stuttgart.

Du sollscht ja nischt so viel trinkele - schwabish German dialect.

don't be a dumb idiot you said DaimlerChrylser

[matt1122]

but for all the people that said FORD does not have a stake in lotus , with engine configs , I think you just proved then wrong

Lotus and vovlo , what are you talking about?

You are making no sense. You were talking about Ford and Lotus. Your comment had nothing to do with Volvo. At all.

don't be a dumb idiot you said DaimlerChrylser

And now we're calling the moderators names? And behaving like a 12 year old?

[exexpat]

I was in Gremany in the 80's as a kid. Living in Stutgrat and the biggest building in the city was What?

VW, AUDI , PORSCHE factory, this is before they moved porsche off site. But VAG still has them, they pay for all the martketing and reserech.

don't be a dumb idiot you said DaimlerChrylser

You just asked me what the biggest building was, I have been in Stuttgart 8 times in the last 5 years. Your ignorance is frustrating and don't call me a dumb idiot. I have a double bachelor's and post graduate studies at the Goethe University in Frankfurt; I speak 3 languages fluently, not including programming languages.

[steve s]

dude... the closest connection u got with lotus is tom walkinshaw who did some early work with lotus and later worked with volvo. the only input lotus put into volvo is the 400 series suspension... even the engine back then was renault's lousy engine that had been tuned by porsche..

no doubt, volvo went back to porsche for expertise in creating that modular engine design we have now that enables volvo to easily reconfigure it from 4 to 5 to 6 cylinders.. the 5 cylinders were of the same lineage as the B6304 - DOHC I6 introduced in 1990 that was Volvo's first in a series of modular engines developed with the assistance of Porsche's Weissach Engineering Centre

read up on the stuff some of us have put up for u..

http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Volvo_Books/engine1.html

http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/Volvo_Books/engine2.html

Racing engine to production engine takes along time, the lotus 5 had 700hp. Volvo had the engine in 1979. Testing, road testing. Volvo does nothing short term, until ford got them. Let me ask you question. What do you think Volvo ran in the British racing series in the early 90’s? all NA

er... they ran in the btcc from 1994-1999. and they all used the same base i5 modular engine that is basically in all 850s.. rules mandated that every race car entered has a 2.0L n/a production engines.. tuned to max of 300 hp. it proved to be a very reliable engine..

Please show respect for some models you do not know about.

speak for urself... r we all so wrong then?

[matt1122]

I'm pretty sure someone has even posted that in this thread already - he still doesn't get it.

Here's the deal - I'm closing this thread because you've been given ample opportunity to redeem yourself and your credibility by at least proving you can admit you were wrong, but you've failed to do so. You're not learning anything and this is just proving a waste of time. I wasn't closing it before because information which might be good for others to read (stuff that many members might learn from) was being posted along with your crap. I think it's ALL there now.

If I wake up tomorrow and find that you have tried to continue this BS by creating a new thread I will be very irritated and it may ruin my day, so your account will be suspended for a week. Think of it as a vacation, so you have time to go to Sweden and learn all about Volvo! 'Cause right now, you know jack.

[jross]

Oh man, I go out drinking for a night and I miss all the fun. I'm reopening this so I have something to read in the morning over breakfast.

BTW- to the chap who thinks Lotus designed the Volvo I5, I have definite proof that this is not so: The I5 works and lasts 200k miles or more.

Not to mention the build quality on the 850 is WAY nicer than any Lotus I've been in (this includes a new Elise, sadly).

[JoshV70]

How about someone just calls freakin' Lotus and asks them! GOD! :D

[Johann]

What an åss.. :josh:

[JCviggen]

We need an idiot filter

[JoshV70]

What an åss..

Me?