starfish Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 whlie the average hourly rates may have increased, keep in mind that the national minimum wage has not changed in quite a while. its astounding, but i think it was something like 9 yearstheresaby the way you guys are doing a very good job at not flaming. i'm glad to see that i haven't had to ban or close a thread. its shows your ability to have a mature conversation.I'm glad you brought this point up Theresa. I'm not sure how things are in your neck of the woods but around me minimum wage paying jobs are pretty rare. In an expanding economy, worker shortage is more of a problem. Most jobs pay way beyond the minumum wage to attract good workers. I would venture to say that many who start off earning the minimum wage will quickly move out of that bracket as they prove themselves as a worthy employee. http://stats.bls.gov/cps/minwage2004.htmCharacteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2004According to Current Population Survey estimates for 2004, some 73.9 million American workers were paid at hourly rates, representing 59.8 percent of all wage and salary workers.1 Of those paid by the hour, 520,000 were reported as earning exactly $5.15, the prevailing Federal minimum wage, and another 1.5 million were reported earning wages below the minimum.2 Together, these 2.0 million workers with wages at or below the minimum made up 2.7 percent of all hourly-paid workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rojo wess Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 by the way you guys are doing a very good job at not flaming. i'm glad to see that i haven't had to ban or close a thread. its shows your ability to have a mature conversation....give it time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfish Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 why is it that sometimes, separation of church and state seems to be forgotten?That phrase does not appear in the US Constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfish Posted December 3, 2005 Report Share Posted December 3, 2005 but from a PR point of view, he's a disaster. As an outsider whose opinion on a country is greatly affected by the actions and utterances of its leaders, I almost feel that america is a bunch of illiterate bumbling idiots who totally "misoverestimate" their leader. Never mind the florida votes fiasco...The term is misunderestimate. The PR you see and hear about is from a disjointed, imploding, out of favor party seeking relevance. When you have a media that is mostly run by socialists, conservatives are not going to get good press coverage. What is bad for America they believe is good for them politically. Not all Republicans are 100% perfect politicians for sure, but neither are the Democrats. If one should fail, that does not make the other party automatically the better one. Trust needs to be earned and the party needs to have a fixed platform where the citizens/voters can see the direction of their leadership.Politics is very dirty to watch closely. You have to sit back and look at it from a distance to see the beauty of a democracy. With all the disagreements and arguments between the parties, this is still the greatest nation on earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rojo wess Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Politics is very dirty to watch closely. You have to sit back and look at it from a distance to see the beauty of a democracy. With all the disagreements and arguments between the parties, this is still the greatest nation on earth.agreed...however...the 'two-party' system has failed us and will continue to fail us as long as people willfully ingest and digest the false world and false sense of security being fed to us like slaughter hogs.Peace be with you all.I'm out of this useless thread.Adieu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 I'm out of this useless thread.Good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCviggen Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Wag the Dog > * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 Bush for the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Name Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 War? What war?We WON that war, remember? Bush was on the Lincoln and boasted that the war was not only over, but we won! Remember, he wore a flight suit and everything, just like the real soldiers who really risked their lives. Might as well have slapped them across the face.Now, how many suffering families later...As a lifelong (and, compared to most of this board, VERY long) Republican, I'm embarassed and ashamed of my party. GW is a disgrace, and has forced me to question my choice of parties. And I'm a pro-business entrepreneur.Disgusted.fn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 War? What war?We WON that war, remember? Bush was on the Lincoln and boasted that the war was not only over, but we won! Remember, he wore a flight suit and everything, just like the real soldiers who really risked their lives. Might as well have slapped them across the face.Now, how many suffering families later...As a lifelong (and, compared to most of this board, VERY long) Republican, I'm embarassed and ashamed of my party. GW is a disgrace, and has forced me to question my choice of parties. And I'm a pro-business entrepreneur.Disgusted.fnCome join the force fakey... democrats +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 The iraqi war was a joke to begin with. Operation "Enduring Freedom"? lol They have their freedom what else are we doing there. Also, somehow everyone or a vast majority of the conservatives believe that Iraq is the terror powerhouse in the world when in fact Bin Laden, the guy that actually bombed the WTC, not husien (by the way, whens the last time u heard about him, guess we are still looking) is from Saudi Arabia. Bush wont say shti about Saudi Arabia because of the Oil but the fact still remains that that country is the home of some of the most powerfull terrorists in the entire world. I dont see Bush handling his business there? Also, if you want to get rid of a lot of the terrorists in the world Bush should look at africa. In nearly every nation there is some form of genocide. Bush only helps those nations with money or oil.I am not a hardcore Democrat and i think that anyone that is is pretty dumb. People like that cannot see both sides of the picture, but i have to say, BUSH is a complete FCKU!!!!And i remeber u starfish, i got into an argument with you a while back, you're pretty much a douche. Have a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 And i remeber u starfish, i got into an argument with you a while back, you're pretty much a douche. Have a great day.Yeah, I tried to warn people about him so this didn't get into a flame war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 (edited) Bush, D1ck, and Colin. greeaattt. Edited December 5, 2005 by JHEIII874T5M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starfish Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Yeah, I tried to warn people about him so this didn't get into a flame war.Let me try to get your comment straight......You consider my post that comments about the good things going on in America to be FLAMING? Get a life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 The term is misunderestimate.I know. It was satire. Look it up :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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