kenhoeve Posted February 12, 2006 Report Share Posted February 12, 2006 (edited) And I am increasingly disgusted as the saga unfolds. Now the top Saudi cleric calling for trials and punishment of the persons responsible. Right. Perhaps the punishment would be stoning- fitting of such a progressive and tolerant religion, or maybe just typical of them and their bronze age system of justice. And the president of Iran, what a jerkoff. There is only one thing worse than a tyrant, and that's a loud mouthed, inflammatory, and ignorant tyrant. God this is pathetic. Oh no! Blasphemy! Somebody throw a rock at me and burn my house down. Goons. Edited February 12, 2006 by kenhoeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAzOR Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 (edited) And I am increasingly disgusted as the saga unfolds. Now the top Saudi cleric calling for trials and punishment of the persons responsible. Right. Perhaps the punishment would be stoning- fitting of such a progressive and tolerant religion, or maybe just typical of them and their bronze age system of justice. And the president of Iran, what a jerkoff. There is only one thing worse than a tyrant, and that's a loud mouthed, inflammatory, and ignorant tyrant. God this is pathetic. Oh no! Blasphemy! Somebody throw a rock at me and burn my house down. Goons.That vein on your forehead is popping out again. Edited February 13, 2006 by RAzOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenhoeve Posted February 13, 2006 Report Share Posted February 13, 2006 That vein on your forehead is popping out again.I am aware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashif Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) One way of understanding my muslims are so angry about these cartoons is because the Phophet (peace be upon him) is mentioned in revervence everyday, and he is as close to us as our parents are in some respects. Drawing these defamatory cartoons is like drawing an ugly picture of every muslims mother or father. Of course this does not give people the right to violently protest and burn things down but it does frustrate us.But even during the prophet's (peace be upon him) he was constantly insulted both verbally and physically.One would ask what He would do if He was here today? This story might explain what he would have done...When he used to live in Mecca and was first teaching people about Islam he would constantly be attacked for his beliefs. As he would walk to his home, he would take a certain path. As he would walk down the street there was a women who would try to throw garbage on him from her balcony. Now she would do this to him everyday on his way home, but he would never say anything ill to her. One day she stop throwing trash on him, and He wondered, why has she not thrown trash on me today? So he went up to her home and knocked on the door. The women asked him Who's there. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said "It is the man you trash on everyday". She opened the door and asked why he was here. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said "How come you did not throw trash on me today". The women said, I am sick and I did have the energy today". The Prophet (PBUH) said is there anything I can do for you, to make you feel better? Now the women was surprised and said "I throw garbage on you everyday and today when I am sick, you are asking how I am and how to help me?" The Prophet (pbuh) said "Well I was concerned for you well being, you are one of God's creatures just like anyone else". After this the women was so impressed with Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) she vowed to never do it again and even accepted Islam.I am sure the Phophet would have ignored these cartoons due to his exceptional behaviour, and instructed the muslim to also ignore it. Edited February 17, 2006 by Kashif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownTurboBrick Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 if only all those rioters would follow those teachings to the letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swedish Mike Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I live in the middle of this, Denmark and Sweden are the countrys under threat now.Denmark for the newspaper and Sweden for showing this in a funny TV show.I think it´s BS, a cartoon for god sake. Look at all the Bush pics and stuff, just don´t care.If the muslim guys are angry, tell them you are sorry and promise it wont be repeated.Why isn´t that enough? Now they talk about terrorist attacks and stuff, totally crazy.../Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin390 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I love the fact they put a 1,000,000+ bounty oh the cartoonist's head. So much for a peaceful religion...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashif Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I love the fact they put a 1,000,000+ bounty oh the cartoonist's head. So much for a peaceful religion......I would say, you should not condenm a whole religion due to the actions of a few.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin390 Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 I would say, you should not condenm a whole religion due to the actions of a few....I see the point you are making, however if they as a whole do not wish to be labeled as such THEY need to do something about the extreamists who bring the religion down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashif Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 We are, if one goes to the Mosque we are told to control ourselves and remember what the Phophet (Pbuh) would teach. But you can't control everyone, that's not possible.Plus some countries want the extremist to cause a problem so that their own domestic problems get concealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinbad Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 We are, if one goes to the Mosque we are told to control ourselves and remember what the Phophet (Pbuh) would teach. But you can't control everyone, that's not possible.Plus some countries want the extremist to cause a problem so that their own domestic problems get concealed.Where are the high-profile calls for peace and tolerance? The extremist element gets all the publicity, and the people calling for calm are never heard from... I think Islam needs some decent PR officers ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashif Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) Where are the high-profile calls for peace and tolerance? The extremist element gets all the publicity, and the people calling for calm are never heard from... I think Islam needs some decent PR officers Malcolm X was becoming one our high-profile caller for peace and tolerance during the 60's but that all changed in Feb 1965. :( Edited February 21, 2006 by Kashif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USMC850T Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) With freedom of speech comes responsibiliy. Also I'd say the Muslims who were offended lack quite a bit of control. Maybe you can chalk it up to cultural or societal differences, but still the response was not merited. If a paper printed cartoons critical of italians, the welch, or Americans, I'm not going to take to the streets and riot, or burn the offending nations embassy to the ground. Perhaps that speaks to the differences in our cultures.Personally I find it 100% unnacceptable to hide behind religion in defense of the kind of conduct we've seen from factions of the Muslim world lately. Edited February 21, 2006 by USMC850T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp5368 Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 I have never heard Muslims protest against the killing of innocent children and family ,I have never heard Muslims speak out against the bombing of innocent Muslims,I have never heard Muslims stand up condem the killing of 3000 Americans who did nothing to them. Some of us stand by Religion but I have never read where murder is okay but yet Muslims cleric puts a bounty on somones life. Regardless of what Religion don't wave it in my face if you can't stand up to the words you so loving protect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kashif Posted February 22, 2006 Report Share Posted February 22, 2006 I have never heard Muslims protest against the killing of innocent children and family ,I have never heard Muslims speak out against the bombing of innocent Muslims,I have never heard Muslims stand up condem the killing of 3000 Americans who did nothing to them. Some of us stand by Religion but I have never read where murder is okay but yet Muslims cleric puts a bounty on somones life. Regardless of what Religion don't wave it in my face if you can't stand up to the words you so loving protect.You obviously don't attend Muslim services during friday. Go to one and you'll see we condenm it everytime. If you want our official political responses go here http://www.cair.comAnd for the record as a Muslim here on Volvospeed I condenm the killing innocent children and family, anytime it happens to anyone of any race, creed, or religion. It even said in the Quran as it is said in the Bible that "the killing of one life is like that of killing all of mankind, and saving one life is like saving all of mankind".Peace :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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