Guest 300+_T5R_855 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 The creature itself goes unseen... it (inaudible knock) lies deep within your engine inaudible to humans, however mr. knock sensor can detect it, and plays havoc with maps.You shouldn't be pissed at MTE. You should be pissed at our lame arse government for feeding this crapola they call gasoline. Just wait until ADM gets its way and all that's offered is Ethanol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 You shouldn't be pissed at MTE. You should be pissed at our lame arse government for feeding this crapola they call gasoline. Just wait until ADM gets its way and all that's offered is Ethanol.TME blows. Most systems can run higher compression, and make more hp with less fuel. For a car that will chug 92 octane, has an IC, and only 8.5:1 CR there is a problem. On 9:1 I am able to run almost twice the HP numbers TME gets on 93 octane. There are 1000hp DSM engines out there running on pump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyWriter Posted March 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 yeah that was retty bad, i got almost no info out of it. live and learn.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 yeah that was retty bad, i got almost no info out of it. live and learn....We don't know what the hell your timing and a/f maps look like, if you're knocking, detonating, etc.Chances are you are, throw some 100 in there, and report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyWriter Posted March 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 We don't know what the hell your timing and a/f maps look like, if you're knocking, detonating, etc.Chances are you are, throw some 100 in there, and report back.i don't have any evidence of knock. IPD doesn't tell you what they do. i am going to try some GT100 mix, but i'm sure you'll agree, ask first don't get killed is not a bad idea.edit: and i didn't mean to be sarcastic, sometimes it just comes out that way. i always appreciate the help.I can't wait to start hearing some kill stories from Skywriter. Killing C6 'vettes and such.heh, i want to just get the car started first with no CEL's. it's been on the lift for a looooooooong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300+_T5R_855 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 TME blows. Most systems can run higher compression, and make more hp with less fuel. For a car that will chug 92 octane, has an intercooler, and only 8.5:1 CR there is a problem. On 9:1 I am able to run almost twice the HP numbers TME gets on 93 octane. There are 1000hp DSM engines out there running on pumpNot buying it.So Charles what's your solution. None of the people I have heard are getting good hp numbers with a Volvo white block and pump gas in the US.If it could be done don't you think someone would have done it by now? There seems to be a pretty good market waiting...those who frequent this board for starters. With a captive audience of over 11,000 I know I would take noticeIf you are throwing a CEL you have another problem that is likely giving you a code to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 What are you calling good power?Ben was easily making 300whp with the nitrous and boost on pump gas 93 octane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Not buying it.So Charles what's your solution. None of the people I have heard are getting good hp numbers with a Volvo white block and pump gas in the US.If it could be done don't you think someone would have done it by now? There seems to be a pretty good market waiting...those who frequent this board for starters. With a captive audience of over 11,000 I know I would take noticeIf you are throwing a CEL you have another problem that is likely giving you a code to figure it out.Loads of people make huge numbers here. Well by your standards. I cannot speak for CA fuel as I have no idea what what they add, but there is no reason correctly tuned that you would need 100. Even europe does not run anywhere near 100, for the most part they run the same fuel as US. These cars are 6000rpm 250hp machines. Not 14000rpm 250hp two strokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300+_T5R_855 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 What are you calling good power?Ben was easily making 300whp with the nitrous and boost on pump gas 93 octane.I am pleased with the performance of my IPD ECU. I am having some octane issues, but I think they can easily be resolved to get 300 whp without nitrous. I was responding to Charlies rant. It also gets back to what good is 300 or more hp if you can't put it to the ground and use it. I don't know about you , but buying tires is not my favorite pastime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I am pleased with the performance of my IPD ECU. I am having some octane issues, but I think they can easily be resolved to get 300 whp without nitrous. I was responding to Charlies rant. It also gets back to what good is 300 or more hp if you can't put it to the ground and use it. I don't know about you , but buying tires is not my favorite pastimeOK you got me. I have never had usable power. 100 octane is your solution, and IPDs chip is born god. BTW 600 is doable with no nitrous..... and on pump fuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300+_T5R_855 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Loads of people make huge numbers here. Well by your standards. I cannot speak for CA fuel as I have no idea what what they add, but there is no reason correctly tuned that you would need 100. Even europe does not run anywhere near 100, for the most part they run the same fuel as US. These cars are 6000rpm 250hp machines. Not 14000rpm 250hp two strokes.I am not sure a simple tune would do it. I think use of a water injection unit would make it much easier. You could run 87 octane and make good power. How much power do you think you should get out of stock internals and pump gas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHEIII874T5M Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Stock internals and pump gas should get you 330whp.All you need is a good tune and a turbo that doesn't hit full spool at 3200 rpm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 300+_T5R_855 Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 OK you got me. I have never had usable power. 100 octane is your solution, and IPDs chip is born god. by the way 600 is doable with no nitrous..... and on pump fuelI wasn't saying that at all. by the way 600 is doable with no nitrous..... and on pump fuelNow for 600 on pump gas. Was that an off the shelf solution? How much time and money did you spend on getting that hp? I'll bet you have a LSD too. Be realistic. If you want to throw enough money at it you can do anything within reason. Were talking about a simple ECU upgrade.B.T.W.Where do you think the problem with the TME ECU lies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johann Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 It's all in the plug tuning.. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I wasn't saying that at all. Now for 600 on pump gas. Was that an off the shelf solution? How much time and money did you spend on getting that hp? I'll bet you have a LSD too. Be realistic. If you want to throw enough money at it you can do anything within reason. Were talking about a simple ECU upgrade.B.T.W.Where do you think the problem with the TME ECU lies?IMHO its just not a very aggresive chip. TME chips dyno about an 18-22 hp gain. PES was able to pull a 35ish gain. Granted thats not even the 50 ipd claims but its still a lot more. Turbo itself is an issue up until the 290hp range at which point it becomes the head. But no where in the real world number should octane be an issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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