What Happened To Stickthatclutch?

[Che'_Moderator]

You can say Doug all you want Illya, you're not gonna have a post deleted.

LOL, the vodka makes them "disappear"

[Karlson]

ahah

Thanks Greg, at least I know you won't delete my post

[gdizzle]

ahah

Thanks Greg, at least I know you won't delete my post

if anyone deletes your post, PM me and I'll find out who.. Now, I'm only talking about if someone deletes your post for using dougs name, if you get a post deleted otherwise I don't care. :monkey:

[Plan_B]

if you get a post deleted otherwise I don't care.

:lol:

[Guest Hank Scorpio]

Andy I was in Belize when the whole Doug thing went down. I was on-line one time in 3 weeks. Whats funny is I still talk to Tbone an hour a day or so when shes on, and Doug still spends more time on here than I do. If you ever wonder who is viewing a topic in anon, you now know. As for Rich, I dont have any hard feelings towards him, but he did drop the ball. I have not said anything out of respect for him, but I asked him a thousand times how he wanted to go about everything and he never spoke up. I have known him for almost 10 years now. He really wanted to start a video section, and was asking about it several times a week, so I got him a 1500 dollar camera and he bails a week later. In 10 years Rich and I had 1 fight and that was ages before he decided to leave. A lot of people who have no idea what goes on behind the smoke and mirrors seem to have strong opinions. I have said from day one, if you feel unhappy here, you should not be here. If you have suggestions please voice them via PM or e-mail. I recieved 31PMs today. 6 people were pissed off about something I had no clue about, and 4 other BS PMs. Not one positive PM, not even a suggestion. Just like the other 3178 days I have been doing this.

Since I am being "called out" AGAIN, I should make it clear that Chuck the only contact we have had in 6 months was the 1 time you IM'd me to bust on a member and when you called theresa while we were on vacation (and I was drunk as a skunk which by the way was a funny 30 second conversation before I passed out). You are right, I am on this forum daily to check my PM's and read the occasional thread. You know it, and if you had truely bothered to contact me, I would have seen it. Comunication IS a two way street, you are more than welcome to contact me as well.

Futher more, I attempted to make a clean break from VS with out dragging peoples names through the mud or bring up pubicily (or even in private for the most part) the reasons I left. But, since this will continue on and on, I will simply state it as the following:

Due to circumstances beyond my control and grevious differences in attitude, mentality and the use of moderator/admin rights with the powers to be, I found it futile to try to post any futher. I find it excessively sad that the few that run this board do everything within their powers to control, manipulate and posses this board to their gains and objectives only. This is including but not limited to: Deletion of threads that encroach on their "market" (blanking plates for instance), deletion of posts that offend or bother the status quo, stealth edits of posts to change their contents (andy's post in this thread is a prime example) ect ect. There is also the constant sig, profile and screen name changes. While often in good humor, I believe that the majority of members have found it to have become very old. I myself when I was a OH did it too, also in good humor, so I am not an angel in this. However, some of the members, and staff can be extremely hurtful, spiteful and just plain mean to members who in my honest view, are not deserving of the treatment they recieve. This has been an ongoing thing the last year, and just before the new year I had decided no amount of complaining behind the scenes would change it.

Lastly: I really wish that this post will stay UNALTERED, though I do not expect to it for more than 10 minutes. If it does, great, that way I everyone is in the clear about what is going on. I left VS on my own freewill of my own choice, and while there are details that could go on for days, we will leave it at that. I never have and never will do anything to smear peoples names or buisness out of personal reasons. I CONSTANTLY still recommend people (and potential customers) to other vendors (on and off this forum) who while I may not like on the personal level, I do feel sell good products. I would never lie about a product I like just because of who sells it.

Those of you who know me personally Im sure know that I do everything with in my powers to help each other out. On a website run by a staff who accuse one member of being a "know it all" (and lets not be fools, VS doesn't exactly have a range of topics that are challenging to the brain after 30 days of being a member often) I find the compliants to be that of calling the kettle black. There are members on this forum who I do respect very much and still ask for advice from on an almost daily basis. Its a shame that some of those members have been lost by the trivial hotdog waving by the powers to be.

And on that note, I hope this puts this debate to an end. IF anyone needs to get ahold of me my email is in my sig and I do still try answer my PM's.

doug

[resa850]

thats wierd i just posted dougs email ten minutes ago and now its gone... there are only a few mods that have the power to delete posts. case and point

[Che'_Moderator]

Since I am being "called out" AGAIN, I should make it clear that Chuck the only contact we have had in 6 months was the 1 time you IM'd me to bust on a member and when you called theresa while we were on vacation (and I was drunk as a skunk which by the way was a funny 30 second conversation before I passed out). You are right, I am on this forum daily to check my PM's and read the occasional thread. You know it, and if you had truely bothered to contact me, I would have seen it. Comunication IS a two way street, you are more than welcome to contact me as well.

Futher more, I attempted to make a clean break from VS with out dragging peoples names through the mud or bring up pubicily (or even in private for the most part) the reasons I left. But, since this will continue on and on, I will simply state it as the following:

Due to circumstances beyond my control and grevious differences in attitude, mentality and the use of moderator/admin rights with the powers to be, I found it futile to try to post any futher. I find it excessively sad that the few that run this board do everything within their powers to control, manipulate and posses this board to their gains and objectives only. This is including but not limited to: Deletion of threads that encroach on their "market" (blanking plates for instance), deletion of posts that offend or bother the status quo, stealth edits of posts to change their contents (andy's post in this thread is a prime example) ect ect. There is also the constant sig, profile and screen name changes. While often in good humor, I believe that the majority of members have found it to have become very old. I myself when I was a OH did it too, also in good humor, so I am not an angel in this. However, some of the members, and staff can be extremely hurtful, spiteful and just plain mean to members who in my honest view, are not deserving of the treatment they recieve. This has been an ongoing thing the last year, and just before the new year I had decided no amount of complaining behind the scenes would change it.

Lastly: I really wish that this post will stay UNALTERED, though I do not expect to it for more than 10 minutes. If it does, great, that way I everyone is in the clear about what is going on. I left VS on my own freewill of my own choice, and while there are details that could go on for days, we will leave it at that. I never have and never will do anything to smear peoples names or buisness out of personal reasons. I CONSTANTLY still recommend people (and potential customers) to other vendors (on and off this forum) who while I may not like on the personal level, I do feel sell good products. I would never lie about a product I like just because of who sells it.

Those of you who know me personally Im sure know that I do everything with in my powers to help each other out. On a website run by a staff who accuse one member of being a "know it all" (and lets not be fools, VS doesn't exactly have a range of topics that are challenging to the brain after 30 days of being a member often) I find the compliants to be that of calling the kettle black. There are members on this forum who I do respect very much and still ask for advice from on an almost daily basis. Its a shame that some of those members have been lost by the trivial hotdog waving by the powers to be.

And on that note, I hope this puts this debate to an end. IF anyone needs to get ahold of me my email is in my sig and I do still try answer my PM's.

doug

I am glad you finally spoke up. Good to know where you were coming from and good to know my complete lack of missing you is justified. From what I heard Greg removed you, but I am very glad to hear you left on you own. I feel a lot better about Greg now. Whatever you do, I wish you the best. You were a great resource here but your lack of communication and willingness to work with others overshadowed that.

[gdizzle]

Since I am being "called out" AGAIN, I should make it clear that Chuck the only contact we have had in 6 months was the 1 time you IM'd me to bust on a member and when you called theresa while we were on vacation (and I was drunk as a skunk which by the way was a funny 30 second conversation before I passed out). You are right, I am on this forum daily to check my PM's and read the occasional thread. You know it, and if you had truely bothered to contact me, I would have seen it. Comunication IS a two way street, you are more than welcome to contact me as well.

Futher more, I attempted to make a clean break from VS with out dragging peoples names through the mud or bring up pubicily (or even in private for the most part) the reasons I left. But, since this will continue on and on, I will simply state it as the following:

Due to circumstances beyond my control and grevious differences in attitude, mentality and the use of moderator/admin rights with the powers to be, I found it futile to try to post any futher. I find it excessively sad that the few that run this board do everything within their powers to control, manipulate and posses this board to their gains and objectives only. This is including but not limited to: Deletion of threads that encroach on their "market" (blanking plates for instance), deletion of posts that offend or bother the status quo, stealth edits of posts to change their contents (andy's post in this thread is a prime example) ect ect. There is also the constant sig, profile and screen name changes. While often in good humor, I believe that the majority of members have found it to have become very old. I myself when I was a OH did it too, also in good humor, so I am not an angel in this. However, some of the members, and staff can be extremely hurtful, spiteful and just plain mean to members who in my honest view, are not deserving of the treatment they recieve. This has been an ongoing thing the last year, and just before the new year I had decided no amount of complaining behind the scenes would change it.

Lastly: I really wish that this post will stay UNALTERED, though I do not expect to it for more than 10 minutes. If it does, great, that way I everyone is in the clear about what is going on. I left VS on my own freewill of my own choice, and while there are details that could go on for days, we will leave it at that. I never have and never will do anything to smear peoples names or buisness out of personal reasons. I CONSTANTLY still recommend people (and potential customers) to other vendors (on and off this forum) who while I may not like on the personal level, I do feel sell good products. I would never lie about a product I like just because of who sells it.

Those of you who know me personally Im sure know that I do everything with in my powers to help each other out. On a website run by a staff who accuse one member of being a "know it all" (and lets not be fools, VS doesn't exactly have a range of topics that are challenging to the brain after 30 days of being a member often) I find the compliants to be that of calling the kettle black. There are members on this forum who I do respect very much and still ask for advice from on an almost daily basis. Its a shame that some of those members have been lost by the trivial hotdog waving by the powers to be.

And on that note, I hope this puts this debate to an end. IF anyone needs to get ahold of me my email is in my sig and I do still try answer my PM's.

doug

:tup:

[BeachRat]

I am glad you finally spoke up. Good to know where you were coming from and good to know my complete lack of missing you is justified. From what I heard Greg removed you, but I am very glad to hear you left on you own. I feel a lot better about Greg now. Whatever you do, I wish you the best. You were a great resource here but your lack of communication and willingness to work with others overshadowed that.

He acts like he's 12, right? I think it's okay if he's not "willing" to share his cookies...

Che' Admin

post Yesterday, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Boomin850 @ Apr 3 2006, 12:18 PM) *

Basically what happened to doug rolleyes.gif

Your gonna act 12, cop attitude, run your mouth and leave because you get called out?

Geico Caveman says: "Not cool, dude. Not cool!"

Edit: Wow! 8 members, 2 anon (wonder who?) Somebody pass me the popcorn!

[Nebor]

This thread is pushing me.

[A pimp named Slickback]

<-- still just wants to know the 1/4 mile times and speed of the C70

[gdizzle]

This thread is pushing me.

push

[prasamin]

the thread title was about StickThatClutch.

Doug explained, Charles explained, Greg explained.

End the thread please. I like all of you.

[A pimp named Slickback]

push

I recognize you know Greg. You were that kid in school that whenever we would go on a field trip to the zoo, you would poke the lions in the cage with a stick.

[gdizzle]

I recognize you know Greg. You were that kid in school that whenever we would go on a field trip to the zoo, you would poke the lions in the cage with a stick.

anything for a good laugh.