Plan_B Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 George Bush is fucking HOT, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin390 Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I support Bush, but I do have to agree it was a dumb move to veto the stem cell research.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachRat Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 So everyone thinks John Kerry's "Christopher Reeves" comment was still to risque? What about Mike J Fox now? How many celebrities must die before neo-conservative morons adapt a little Lockean Philosophy? A little hurt for a lot of benefit? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 So everyone thinks John Kerry's "Christopher Reeves" comment was still to risque? What about Mike J Fox now? How many celebrities must die before neo-conservative morons adapt a little Lockean Philosophy? A little hurt for a lot of benefit? No? What has to happen is countries like China start moving ahead, then things will start to change. Unless it directly effects them or a close relative, or it is for national pride, they won't do squat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin390 Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 why does it have to be a celebrity? For the MOST part I find celebrities obnoxious and fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachRat Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 What has to happen is countries like China start moving ahead, then things will start to change. Unless it directly effects them or a close relative, or it is for national pride, they won't do squat.I totally agree; tis most unfortunate but true. If G-dubya's brother or something had Parkinson's, I bet he'd be shredding that veto right, quick and in a hurry!why does it have to be a celebrity? For the MOST part I find celebrities obnoxious and fake.The celebrity crack was sarcasm. Sadly, it's really only brought to the forefront by celebrities such as C Reeves and M Fox, though. Thousands more are dying from diseases that could be conquered through stem cell research. Obviously it won't be an instantaneous effect, but federal funding would speed up the process exponentially! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 This is what pisses me off. Everyone hears what is reported on the media and thinks embryonic stem cell research is the answer to everones problems. Well, that's crock of crap. Stemcells can be had in much better form from umbilical cords, spinal fluids, brain tissue etc without the need to create an embryo and dissmantle it. So, before you call GB an idiot, do some research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 This is what pisses me off. Everyone hears what is reported on the media and thinks embryonic stem cell research is the answer to everones problems. Well, that's crock of crap. Stemcells can be had in much better form from umbilical cords, spinal fluids, brain tissue etc without the need to create an embryo and dissmantle it. So, before you call GB an idiot, do some research. I never called him an idiot for this. There are plenty of other idiotic things he does for me to call him an idiot. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I never called him an idiot for this. There are plenty of other idiotic things he does for me to call him an idiot. I'm sure there are many things you do too... Same goes for myself, and everyone else on this planet. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 I'm sure there are many things you do too... Same goes for myself, and everyone else on this planet. True, but I tend to be able to pronouce words correctly and don't make them up on the fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAzOR Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 This is for GOVERNMENT funding. Ameircan corps are going balls out on this. Its the way the USA does it. The European countries fund Airbus we have Boeing who stands on its own. Bush is vetoing though on his morality. Gotta applaud him for acting on principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachRat Posted July 20, 2006 Report Share Posted July 20, 2006 This is what pisses me off. Everyone hears what is reported on the media and thinks embryonic stem cell research is the answer to everones problems. Well, that's crock of crap. Stemcells can be had in much better form from umbilical cords, spinal fluids, brain tissue etc without the need to create an embryo and dissmantle it. So, before you call GB an idiot, do some research.It's been known for years that stem cells can be had from bone marrow and other parts w/out using embryos. However, most of these sources have their own limitaions. Many of the stem cells from these parts are only able to be used for specific applications because they've already begun to form into certain types of cells. Embryonic stem cells are still highy sought-after because they're one of the ONLY places to get a true "blank" cell. I have done my research, and GB is still an idiot.Bush is vetoing though on his morality. Gotta applaud him for acting on principle.It's morality based on religious principles. I see it as a failure of separation of church and state: right up there with anti-gay marriage laws. He should be vetoing based on the law, which doesn't legally define anything living prior to exiting the womb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 I'm sure there are many things you do too... Same goes for myself, and everyone else on this planet. But he's the president, it's a different standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gioseppe Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 im neutral.i think they should try it out, see if it could possibly help. if it does, go forth. doesn't? monkeyit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Über855R Posted July 23, 2006 Report Share Posted July 23, 2006 Stem cells are a very promising form of medical research. The funding from the government would be helpfull to the use of stem cells in US markets but there is no stopping the reasearch. When the US government realizes how much money they could make with viable stem cell treaments they will be on the banwagon. But anyone realistically wanting stem cell treaments will be going to europe or china until then. There are already viable uses for the stem cell work being done now but to get us government funding seems to be a joke until Bush is out of office. Anyone that thinks stem cell research is immoral or illegitimate is just ignorant and should go back to and debate abortion until they are blue in the face. While I support him because he is our president and I am slightly patriotic Bush is a numbskull. :ph34r: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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