Phil94850 Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 read the title charisma.... :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 everyone today throws the word " ricer " around and i think its quite arrogant to do so considering before the " Fast and Furious " movie there wasnt much aftermaket tuning and such and after that movie it just blew up. So.... before some of you guys decide to call someone a ricer, and it may be a hard pill to swallow... it really all started there.What WHAT?> Please say you're under 20 years of age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Volvospeed was around 3 years before FF. Its very safe to say when tunin reached Volvo, it had already reached Ford, Honda, DSM, some 60 years earlier. American Graffiti says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlson Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 it depends what kind of aftermarket you are talking about, people were tunning cars way before Fast and Furious came out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil94850 Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 no im well past 20... and yes i understand people have been tuning cars, ive been messing with cars for about 20yrs., but you guys know what i mean come on, thats why i wrote ecu upgrades, etc.. back in those days all you had was better flowing heads, bigger cams, pistons, carbs, and a few turbos and that was about it. all hard parts and typical stuff. nowadays, everything is alot more technical and thats why your getting 300 horses out of 4 cyl engines. in the old days you didnt have a chip you could pop in and bump your horse power up 50 horses or major upgrades on suspension, you had to do some serious wrench turning to get more horses like that. in the old days everyone is still thinking only 1/4 mile times and not about handling, sound sys, nice wheels, low pro tires, and such. im not trying to make a big deal about this.. all im saying is until the FF thing came along you didnt really hear that much about it. im sure there were forums with people talking about it and probably doing things but as far as calling IPD or whomever and getting a chip it wasnt as easy there just wasnt much out there. after FF all kinds of techie speed shops popped up and here we are today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 You still dont get 50 hp from a chip on anything not turbocharged. Tuning back in the day was a lot harder. Now "tuning" is a bunch of kids ordering parts off the internet with moms card and probably paying someone to install said parts. You get props for orginal work and unconventional thinking, but thats where it stops. Don't forget all those people who put the market where it is today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicLemonade Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 dude im pretty sure my grandfather was modding his 53 mecury back in the day, and my dad modded his impala ss with some cams and headers back in the 70's. i think tuning was born when henry ford drag raced a horse in his model T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil94850 Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 che.. yes i know that without a turbo you dont get much aww hell u guys win you guys are gonna pick apart anything i say. we all have diff opinions and thats what makes life wonderful . i also agree alot of peeps have put alot of time and sweat into the market to get it here today and i applaud them.Toxic... yes i know im not talking about that kind of tuning im talking about the more techie stuff we do today. there were all kinds of speed shops around but none of them had a chip for your 84 turbo volvo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussB Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 no im well past 20... with the K-Mart fogs and the dryer hose, I figured you for a broke-ass kid Hell, I'm too old to messin' around with a 10 years old "piece of junk" myself :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToxicLemonade Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 che.. yes i know that without a turbo you dont get much aww hell u guys win you guys are gonna pick apart anything i say. we all have diff opinions and thats what makes life wonderful . i also agree alot of peeps have put alot of time and sweat into the market to get it here today and i applaud them.Toxic... yes i know im not talking about that kind of tuning im talking about the more techie stuff we do today. there were all kinds of speed shops around but none of them had a chip for your 84 turbo volvo ...man i dont want to be a dick or argue with you, but im not really sure what point you are trying to make and i dont think you really know your point either. but then again i think your point might be that tuning back then was easier because of less computer technology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil94850 Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 russ.. i was wondering how long it would be before youd have something stupid to say... 10 yr old piece of junk... and your car is a 96 LMFAO... plzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil94850 Posted September 14, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Toxic.. thats cool ill clarify... all im saying is... in the old days all you had was hard parts, cams, heads, intakes, carbs, and such. after or mayble a little before Fast and Furious now we have alot more options as far as tuning is concerned soooooo when people say "ricer" we got alot more options opened to us because of it. better flowing cold air intakes, ecu chips, better suspensions, better tires, understand ???just my opinion fellas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussB Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 russ.. i was wondering how long it would be before youd have something stupid to say... 10 yr old piece of junk... and your car is a 96 LMFAO... plzzzzz10 yr old POS...I WAS talking about my car! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-5Bandit Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Toxic.. thats cool ill clarify... all im saying is... in the old days all you had was hard parts, cams, heads, intakes, carbs, and such. after or mayble a little before Fast and Furious now we have alot more options as far as tuning is concerned soooooo when people say "ricer" we got alot more options opened to us because of it. better flowing cold air intakes, ecu chips, better suspensions, better tires, understand ???just my opinion fellas...Maybe you lived in an isolated area to the world prior to FandF, but in So Cal there had been plenty of aftermarket and speed shops for years prior to the movie. I had owned 2 custom civics prior to the movie and there was plenty of avaialble aftermarket parts for the cars. I had friends running turbo'ed Integras and CRXs back in 1996. If anything, the evolution of the internet has caused the aftermarket industry as a whole to grow significantly, not the movie. The Honda-type hype was what spawned the movie, otherwise the movie would have never been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM850R Posted September 14, 2006 Report Share Posted September 14, 2006 Fast and the Furious did not spawn a huge market for "tuning". There was already a market and many people knew about it. F&F helped promote customized cars to the general public. You seem to be part of that general public.Lets get something correct here. Wikipedia does a good job at defining "RICE". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rice_carafter or mayble a little before Fast and Furious now we have alot more options as far as tuning is concerned soooooo when people say "ricer" we got alot more options opened to us because of it. better flowing cold air intakes, ecu chips, better suspensions, better tires, understand ???Technology is always improving and you cant say a movie created a wave of new technology for cars. If anything it created a wave of bad paint jobs, unfinished project cars on the road and ugly (useless) spoilers. ipd products are an outgrowth of our passion for Volvos. With over 30 years of record-breaking success in this area, we know Volvos from the chassis up, and we can provide product and related technical assistance for Volvos. Thats right from IPD. They have been around before F&F came out in 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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