Che'_Moderator Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 What would be great is to have a kit that includes a tubular manifold that places the turbo above level of the valve cover. Includes choice of GT series or other turbo options. Includes down pipe and basic fittings to intercooler and finally the misc lines-clamps etc.needed.Pipe dream....yes...but it would still be nice.We see them all day long for many imports.Anything offered in Sweden????I can get you a manifold like that but its gonna be 1500. I can also get you a cosworth manifold but tis 3k or 8k depending which. And if anything you want to position the turbo lower not higher.They're a perfectly spec log manifold? Mine is ugly because it's heavily abused and stretched with an acetylene torch. What else would you like from a log manifold? Shiny uselessness? We could have it coated or I could paint it bright pink for you if you want. Nearly everyone on this site is limited to mitsu turbos because they don't want to spend the money for a one-off manifold or don't have the access. Now like I said pricing isn't set, upon interest it is decided. But there doesn't seem to be any interest, just irrelevant people (since they won't buy one) harping, so as it stands 600 range. Assume it could be lowered if people came forth trying to buy them. I guess if you're at all interested, drop me a PM.Didnt say it had to be pretty. I just dont want it to look like it came out of my dogs butt after taco night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 maybe cutting a hole in the hood and having the turbo exposed. Haha, yeah. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW T5R Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I just dont want it to look like it came out of my dogs butt after taco nightohhhh that's not a pretty image Why exactly would you want that in these cars? What benefit does it really provide?Besides bubbeling paint on your hood.Should have figured best bet would be to position the turbo lower. That's what I get by being surrounded by the inline 6 supra-IS300 and BMW crowd. Many manifold and turbo kit choices.As far as what I want in these cars is enough viable options to choose the level of performance desired beyond the S60R manifold, NA items on turbo cars, 18-19T etc.I have short term and long term goals for mine that do include block buildup, GT series turbo, custom header plus all the associated items. I plan out my items as to lessen the amount of duplicate purchases from short to long term goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Do you even know what performance can be had with the s60r manifold? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 LOL.Welding is cheap. Parts are cheap. You can T's and L's for around 20 bucks each. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NW T5R Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 Do you even know what performance can be had with the s60r manifold?Yes I do. The S60R along with a custom log manifold will work just fine and exceed the limits of the block. A tubular design provides each cylinder with its own runner unit flowing to the collector directly before the turbine. This type of design allows for near even flow in each runner and greater efficiency due to lower backpressure. This can be taken one step further with an equal length runner design, which though nearly eliminating pulse overlap in the turbo improves spool time and overall efficiency. While the cost of an equal lenght tubular unit is not needed to achieve block failure hp it would provide a much more efficient powerband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 14, 2007 Report Share Posted March 14, 2007 I understand that. But... do you need it? no not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Why exactly would you want that in these cars? What benefit does it really provide?Besides bubbeling paint on your hood.You talking about this manifold? Superior flow to a stock manifold along with the ability to run a large turbo outside of the mitsu family. Hardly think it's going to bubble the paint on your hood, putting a turbine blanket either way.Welding is cheap. Parts are cheap. You can T's and L's for around 20 bucks each. Well, since the shop would have to fit and design this said one-off manifold...100 in Ts & Ls, 90 for flange, 30 for t3 flange, 25 for tial flange...about 250. Figure 12-15 hours of shop time making the one-off manifold...what're shops charging now-a-days? 65/hour? So 780-975, of course that's a HIGH figure, figure more like 5-600. So 750-850 total for a one-off at your local shop along with the downtime of your car. Then gaskets, good hardware...etc. Skipping some steps apparently... The 600 range is associated more with a one-off standpoint as I don't expect more then a couple people to want this. Things change when 5, 10 etc get into the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 You talking about this manifold? Superior flow to a stock manifold along with the ability to run a large turbo outside of the mitsu family. Hardly think it's going to bubble the paint on your hood, putting a turbine blanket either way.Well, since the shop would have to fit and design this said one-off manifold...100 in Ts & Ls, 90 for flange, 30 for t3 flange, 25 for tial flange...about 250. Figure 12-15 hours of shop time making the one-off manifold...what're shops charging now-a-days? 65/hour? So 780-975, of course that's a HIGH figure, figure more like 5-600. So 750-850 total for a one-off at your local shop along with the downtime of your car. Then gaskets, good hardware...etc. Skipping some steps apparently... The 600 range is associated more with a one-off standpoint as I don't expect more then a couple people to want this. Things change when 5, 10 etc get into the mix.If it takes a shop 15 hours to make that find a new shop and get you money back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvolvoR Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 If it takes a shop 15 hours to make that find a new shop and get you money back.esprecially when they have a jig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 If it takes a shop 15 hours to make that find a new shop and get you money back.I'd guarantee a local shop that you have no prior affiliation with would charge 12-15 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 You talking about this manifold? Superior flow to a stock manifold along with the ability to run a large turbo outside of the mitsu family. Hardly think it's going to bubble the paint on your hood, putting a turbine blanket either way.Well, since the shop would have to fit and design this said one-off manifold...100 in Ts & Ls, 90 for flange, 30 for t3 flange, 25 for tial flange...about 250. Figure 12-15 hours of shop time making the one-off manifold...what're shops charging now-a-days? 65/hour? So 780-975, of course that's a HIGH figure, figure more like 5-600. So 750-850 total for a one-off at your local shop along with the downtime of your car. Then gaskets, good hardware...etc. Skipping some steps apparently... The 600 range is associated more with a one-off standpoint as I don't expect more then a couple people to want this. Things change when 5, 10 etc get into the mix.Hehe, no I know about log mani's I was talking to nwt5r and putting his turbo practically through the hood hahaha ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIORE Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I could paint it bright pink for you if you want.Bright pink would kick ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 15, 2007 Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 I'd guarantee a local shop that you have no prior affiliation with would charge 12-15 hours.Maybe for the first one. But you already sucked up that cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted March 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2007 Maybe for the first one. But you already sucked up that cost.Exactly, you made my point of the 600 range being perfectly reasonable. Every other shop, that apparently Greg thinks will charge a couple hundred dollars, would actually have the costs I quoted. It's not as if I sucked up the cost for every shop in the country. Should I charge 1K to the first buyer and all the following to 300? No, of course not.You completely made my point right there by saying that, other shops would be doing these for the FIRST time and thus, charging those hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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