Zulu Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 I was more talking a cheap way to convert the signal, not be able to tune the thing really.Uh, I don't think you know what this all is. Stick with MAF and chip tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keaton85 Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Uh, I don't think you know what this all is. Stick with MAF and chip tunes.So there is no way to take the MAP signal and translate it to read out as if it was reading MAF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 So there is no way to take the MAP signal and translate it to read out as if it was reading MAF?I don't even know what you're asking. MAP is manifold absolute pressure, MAF is mass air flow...you can't 'translate' one to the other? You can convert to MAP with an EMS, but that would be for tuning? What other possible reason do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keaton85 Posted April 13, 2007 Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Ok the MAP is just a different way of tell how much air is in the system thus letting the ECU tune to that reading correct? So if you installed a MAP sensor then had a circuit inline to the ECU that would translate the reading into voltage/ohms that the ECU could understand and just think it was a MAF sensor, get it kinda? I'm just thinking about this because the MAF would be nice to get rid of any have the MAP sensor hidden away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted April 13, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2007 Ok the MAP is just a different way of tell how much air is in the system thus letting the ECU tune to that reading correct? So if you installed a MAP sensor then had a circuit inline to the ECU that would translate the reading into voltage/ohms that the ECU could understand and just think it was a MAF sensor, get it kinda? I'm just thinking about this because the MAF would be nice to get rid of any have the MAP sensor hidden away.Why would MAF be nice to get rid of? I'd say it's more user-friendly. The stock ECU is not going to run a MAP sensor no matter what, you need an EMS...there is no point. And I'd get bigger injectors then 350cc for your engine build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keaton85 Posted April 14, 2007 Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 Why would MAF be nice to get rid of? I'd say it's more user-friendly. The stock ECU is not going to run a MAP sensor no matter what, you need an EMS...there is no point. And I'd get bigger injectors then 350cc for your engine build.well stuff it was a thought, yeah the whites will only be temps if i dont sell them off as i have a few sets around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted April 14, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2007 well stuff it was a thought, yeah the whites will only be temps if i dont sell them off as i have a few sets around.Don't know what you were thinking man...sorry lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prasamin Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 how's this different from Civinco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted April 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 how's this different from Civinco?Price? I think Civinco controls injectors directly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolly850R Posted April 15, 2007 Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Price? I think Civinco controls injectors directly though.Yep, this modifies the O2 reading to get your ECU to change the output of the injectors to get the desired AFR. So it is modifying both the MAF(it uses a MAP itself) and the O2 signals. I guess this is how they can modify the closed loop portion of your standard map without the ECU adjusting back to stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted April 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2007 Yep, this modifies the O2 reading to get your ECU to change the output of the injectors to get the desired AFR. So it is modifying both the MAF(it uses a MAP itself) and the O2 signals. I guess this is how they can modify the closed loop portion of your standard map without the ECU adjusting back to stock.Slightly advanced SAFC in terms of fueling. Can't argue too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorqueSteer Posted April 16, 2007 Report Share Posted April 16, 2007 Civinco is a fully featured piggyback engine management system. It connects directly to the injectors to give you precise control of the fuel injectors where you want it, if no settings are changed, the stock ecu's signals will be sent to the injectors. Civinco also has an easy connection to the ignition coil to allow for ignition advance and retard. It also has analog inputs and outputs and pwm driver outputs for driving solenoids.Civinco runs off a MAP sensor for its input, but it also connects to the MAF sensor, this allows you to modify the maf sensor signal or run a MAF simulator program to get rid of the maf all together and use the MAP sensor only for the load inputs.how's this different from Civinco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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