gdizzle Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/rele...aspx?ID=2007088Note the new S80 was runner up for most reliable mid-size premium luxury car along with the Lexus GS 350/GS 430/GS 450H and Infiniti M-Series which all tied for the #2 spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-5Bandit Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Correct that, Volvo's make for a more affordable resale because they of their depreciation...S60R point in case, in my opinion one of the best buys out there for a used car with nice luxury and power and not too many miles...People will continue to buy it...One point to go against Volvo is the fact that the S60 is on a platform that is now 13 years old. That is kind of ridiculous and does hender Volvo but you can not forget this is a small Swedish company and you only need look at Saab to tell that these companies are very limited in what they can and can't do. If Volvo wanted to compete with BMV or Audi they couldn't. They are a completely different make and car company, not to mention from the start before the Ford buyout Volvo Corporation has had to put it's money into MANY other places unlike most of it's competitors. You really can't think your logic makes sense. Low resale is one of the worst things for a car manufacturer and ultimately hurts their bottom line. Here, let's keep this simple for you. The average new car buyer, whether they finance or lease, does not typically keep a new car until it is paid off. Though a vehicle is almost always a depreciable asset, most car buyers like to know when buying a new car that they can get the best possible resale later on. If a car manufacturer has low resale, that will equate to less new car sales. The average new car buyer does not have brand loyalty, and just wants the best deal when buying and the highest resale when selling. Volvo makes no money on used car resale, they make all their money on new car sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POOKDIZZLE Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I think the C30 and the XC60 will do well here, change is good at least in these cases. S80 with a V8 should definately been over 375 hp and torque. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmartinlsmith Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 The old S80s were fine. I hated the fake wood and plastic but overall they were ok. The new ones should be sold under the Ford name. They are the reincarnated bastard taurus.thank you, i am not the only one whom thinks this is gospel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACBarnett Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 thank you, i am not the only one whom thinks this is gospel...I like the interior on the new one alot, but that's about it. It's overweight, underpowered, and priced about 6k above how much it should cost276 horsepower from the S80 T-6 back in 1998 was very respectable, in the same power and luxury category as the 540i, A6 4.2 and E500 for much less money and in a body that was ~500 lbs lighter than the competition. It wasn't a bad car, despite the FWD-ness and the glass transmission, and at least around here you saw tons of S80 T6's.That said, to perform on that level today, the new S80 needs to keep all of it's luxo-gadgets and grow 60-70 hp at the same time. People who buy european cars DO care about simple things like horsepower, and the S80 T6 should be the BASE model, with either a bored and tuned or otherwise massaged V8 as the "halo" powerplant. It also needs to look as elegant and eye-catching now as the old S80 was back in 1998. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POOKDIZZLE Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Turbo V-8, now were talkin' B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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