MattM Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Greetings,I've decided to go ahead and finish the build on my C after having it sit all winter unsold. I'm set with a manifold(custom) and turbo(35r) as well as injectors, just am stuck on the tuning. I know that RICA offers a 35r/750cc map but after searching the forum have yet to find anyone running it successfully. Are there still problems with this particular file or am I stuck going with a piggyback/standalone system?regards,Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomin850 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Long answer short....Go standalone. If you have that much money into it now why cheap out on tuning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Thanks for the quick response. I figured that was the general consensus, just wanted to see if they had worked the bugs out of the file yet or not.regards,Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomin850 Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 afaik there were only 2 people that ever ran the file on here. Pras being one of them. Pras left and hasn't looked back, and I think the other had engine problems. Either way the file is completely out of whack, so unless you want to be the guinea pig and send your ecu back/forth a million times...yea you get my drift. At that point you are still not going to be able to have the flexibility of the standalone, but probably have in the same money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socal850tuner Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 Yea I havent heard anthing from Pras in a long time. Last time I heard from him though the car was running fine. Other then that I dont know anything since the build of the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 With that set up you should be looking at 400-450 wheels. If not ditch that set up. As for Rica vs standalone I I would not go standalone for those numbers. To get something better than bosche your looking at 7k and there is no real gain for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishey Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 With that set up you should be looking at 400-450 wheels. If not ditch that set up. As for Rica vs standalone I I would not go standalone for those numbers. To get something better than bosche your looking at 7k and there is no real gain for you.Your crazy the bosch standard unit is a joke at best. Having more knowledge on this factor then anyone on this board its easy to understand that 7k is an absolutely absurd number for standalone thats better then the standard bosch unit. Haltech cost $1600 with every option and install is a breeze for anyone who isn't MRDD. The tuning is strait forward and with little expertise you can learn from the instructions about everything you will ever need to know for tuning a Volvo. That being said if you are MRDD (That means 50% of the people reading this lol) just forget it all and give up on building a car yourself take to a good shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownTurboBrick Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Ajhehr (aaron) is the other person with the RICA 35r map, he basically uses it to keep the CEL's off on his car. everything else is run with 034. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishey Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Ajhehr (aaron) is the other person with the RICA 35r map, he basically uses it to keep the CEL's off on his car. everything else is run with 034.That sounds like a bunch of wasted money but hey its volvospeed I wouldn't expect less from this site. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Your crazy the bosch standard unit is a joke at best. Having more knowledge on this factor then anyone on this board its easy to understand that 7k is an absolutely absurd number for standalone thats better then the standard bosch unit. Haltech cost $1600 with every option and install is a breeze for anyone who isn't MRDD. The tuning is strait forward and with little expertise you can learn from the instructions about everything you will ever need to know for tuning a Volvo. That being said if you are MRDD (That means 50% of the people reading this lol) just forget it all and give up on building a car yourself take to a good shop.You have the most understanding on this board about standalones when it comes to ones that belong on a 92 chevy astro van maybe. In the last 10 years I have used probably 6-7 different units and all said and done even on the cheap end your looking at 4k before you factor in the dash. 2k is a stupid number to expect for one that will out preform the bosche unit. Dont get me wrong. If you have a gimp ass porsche you can limp dick it up with some POS ecu with 2 injector and ignition drivers. Slap in some rats nest of a crimped wiring harness and say "Look at me! I'm a turbobricks god!". But in the real world a decent ECU is going to run 2k. A decent wiring harness is going to run another 1500. Plus tax your looking at 4k and thats bottom of the barrel. GEMs, Pectel, EFI, Motec, hatachi, siemens are all 4k+ box alone and can be as much as 8k+. So before you show up giving the kiddies false hopes say to yourself. Does a 400hp car really need standalone? Well maybe that thing you call and engine does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackT5 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Ajhehr (aaron) is the other person with the RICA 35r map, he basically uses it to keep the CEL's off on his car. everything else is run with 034.He shouldn't need the Rica tune to do that. I kept the stock ecu in my car to keep the dash/computer functionality while I run NIRA to control the engine. No CELs from the stock ecu what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbor850 Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 or a nice custom tune from EPL would do the trick - EPLABS.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Thanks for the replies so far guys. As has already been seen in the thread there is a good amount of misinformation out there concerning standalone applications and our cars. Chuck, my power goals are somewhere between 400-450 whp and in the past had read that the stock ecu(reprogrammed of course) was upto the task. NIRA does seem like a great alternative and I may explore it further if for some reason I had problems with the tune. I've actually emailed EPL as well since i'm not too far from them now and if they're willing may give it a shot.regards,Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Thanks for the replies so far guys. As has already been seen in the thread there is a good amount of misinformation out there concerning standalone applications and our cars. Chuck, my power goals are somewhere between 400-450 whp and in the past had read that the stock ecu(reprogrammed of course) was upto the task. NIRA does seem like a great alternative and I may explore it further if for some reason I had problems with the tune. I've actually emailed EPL as well since i'm not too far from them now and if they're willing may give it a shot.regards,MattMy common question comes into play here. At 500bhp how many miles do you expect out of the engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted March 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Well, the engine is built with forged internals so assuming I don't completely romp on the car I'd imagine it lasting for awhile. I am sure at that power level i'm greatly increasing my chances of having something in the car fail but it's a risk im willing to take. I've already put so much damned money into this car, whats a few grand more Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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