So Hell In A Handbasket?

[Plan_B]

Is she hot? j/k. It's always been funny for me how lesbians (gay women) are more socially acceptable than gay men.

Matt's pretty hot so she has to be

And for any of you who think that homosexuality is a choice, well it's not...........did you choose to be straight, if so then why :(

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QUOTE (Plan_B @ May 29 2008, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Being a homo I could careless if gay marriage passes in any state, the fact that people have actually put so much thought and time into this when there are so many other things wrong in this world is really sad.

And Dave, you really are a closet case, the sooner you deal with being gay the sooner your life will be a lot better, less anger

ha, you think half the people on here are closet cases

Numerous psychological and neurological studies have shown that there is a biological basis for homosexuality, both genetic and physiological. This is cross cultural and is even exhibited in multiple animal species and goes as far back as Ancient Greece.

What is homosexual culture Dave? A limp wrist? A lisp? That's behavioral, not cultural.

I was talking about the parades they have where they walk around with their privates hanging out and the point they want to make about how they want people to know they are gay and they want people to feel they know they are here.

the behavioral is about why they might have a lisp or a feminine voice... is that neurological/biological also?

QUOTE (matt b @ May 29 2008, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

LOL at the comment about Adam at Justin's house!

No problem with gay marriage, some peeps on here alreay know my sister is gay and has a live-in GF. Why should she not have the same rights as the rest of us.

eh, i guess I am old fashion and think marriage is bound by God between a man and a woman.

I do have gay friends and I do not mind them

[ErikS]

I was talking about the parades they have where they walk around with their privates hanging out and the point they want to make about how they want people to know they are gay and they want people to feel they know they are here.

Maybe you should stop going to those parades.

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Maybe you should stop going to those parades.

never been to one

[matt b]

Is she hot? j/k. It's always been funny for me how lesbians (gay women) are more socially acceptable than gay men.

I haven't heard that one before, I promise!

It's more acceptable, but there are times when they do not make any physical contacts. They've had people threaten them too.

QUOTE (Plan_B @ May 29 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Matt's pretty hot so she has to be

And for any of you who think that homosexuality is a choice, well it's not...........did you choose to be straight, if so then why

Thanks Grant.

ha, you think half the people on here are closet cases

I was talking about the parades they have where they walk around with their privates hanging out and the point they want to make about how they want people to know they are gay and they want people to feel they know they are here.

the behavioral is about why they might have a lisp or a feminine voice... is that neurological/biological also?

eh, i guess I am old fashion and think marriage is bound by God between a man and a woman.

I do have gay friends and I do not mind them

I'm calling BS on that one, sorry Dave.

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QUOTE (matt b @ May 29 2008, 11:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>

I haven't heard that one before, I promise!

It's more acceptable, but there are times when they do not make any physical contacts. They've had people threaten them too.

Thanks Grant.

I'm calling BS on that one, sorry Dave.

lol, whys that, I am a nice guy in person... I went to school with a couple guys on the swim team that were really nice guys... I hung out with the girl swimmers which is how I met them. Nice guys and the reason I was friends with them was because they were nice and did not let everyone know they were homosexuals and try things with me.

they had a lisp also and I asked why do some homosexual men have lisps... they said because thats what they do.. I LOLed

oh and they believe that people are not born with the homosexual "gene" but develop it

[Oreo931]

Obviously I get dragged into this

Thanks Charles.

I don't care what other people do with their lives. Gay people getting married has no effect on me, and in my opinion they deserve every right that we have. Dave and Justin are just too "old school" I guess. Not in a cool way though .

Edit: I still dont understand why the hell any of this matters to you people who are against it. Justin is angry because he thinks his tax money goes to pay for disease research "that are caused by gay people." Even if thats true (which its not), there is nothing you can do about it. Thats life and you should learn to live with it.

Dave is mad b/c he thinks gay people are feminine? Thats just retarded (OOPS! NON-PC TERM IN THE POLITICAL FORUM!!). I have met plenty of gay people who you wouldnt know were gay, and who dont have lisps. Everything you said was just a generalization.

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Obviously I get dragged into this

Thanks Charles.

I don't care what other people do with their lives. Gay people getting married has no effect on me, and in my opinion they deserve every right that we have. Dave and Justin are just too "old school" I guess. Not in a cool way though .

Edit: I still dont understand why the hell any of this matters to you people who are against it. Justin is angry because he thinks his tax money goes to pay for disease research "that are caused by gay people." Even if thats true (which its not), there is nothing you can do about it. Thats life and you should learn to live with it.

Dave is mad b/c he thinks gay people are feminine? Thats just retarded (OOPS! NON-PC TERM IN THE POLITICAL FORUM!!). I have met plenty of gay people who you wouldnt know were gay, and who dont have lisps. Everything you said was just a generalization.

ugh, I am tired of people posting and not reading what I said... I am not mad becuase tehy are fiminine Adam. I do not understand why they have feminine tones to their voice or act feminine... its the culture I do not like

and where did you get I am mad from?

[Oreo931]

ugh, I am tired of people posting and not reading what I said... I am not mad becuase tehy are fiminine Adam. I do not understand why they have feminine tones to their voice or act feminine... its the culture I do not like

and where did you get I am mad from?

but I am really not looking forward to the next couple years if it starts moving across the US

Again, you are generalizing. Just because you see flamboyant gay people in movies or on TV, or even some of your "friends" in person, does not mean all gay people are like that.

[Austin H]

Well as someone with a boss that's gay, many gay friends and straight friends whom I think are gay. Let them get married if they want. If anything it has a positive effect on the world, dare I say population control?

As far as tax dollars going towards disease research, do it now while labor is cheap. In 10 years or 20 years labor won't be cheaper. Just like I tell everyone to drive around all they want right now. Gas isn't getting cheaper.

There is always going to be homosexuals. Let them get married so we can find another subject to fight about.

Dave have you heard the saying don't knock it until you try it. :ph34r:

[ErikS]

Let me help you understand yourself. Being gay is a part of a subculture, what is it you don't like about it?

[gdizzle]

[blanket statement]Numerous psychological and neurological studies have shown that there is a biological basis for homosexuality, both genetic and physiological. This is cross cultural and is even exhibited in multiple animal species and goes as far back as Ancient Greece.[/blanket statement]

What is homosexual culture Dave? A limp wrist? A lisp? That's behavioral, not cultural.

A comment like that should be backed up w/ proof, not passed off as fact. /devils advocate

[ErikS]

A comment like that should be backed up w/ proof, not passed off as fact. /devils advocate

Ok, its all about predispositions. The APA, and AAP state there is no scientific proof that there is a biological or genetic component to homosexuality. But there is overwhelming evidence that there is a distinct biological component to sexual orientation. The same hormones, neurotransmitters, and connections in my brain that tell me I like the opposite sex are different in those that are attracted to the same sex as themselves.

Most current research (we can all search wikipedia) shows significant neurological and physiological differences between gay and straight men.

But as always correlation does not imply causation

It's like the personality arguement, or the alcoholic arguement, is it genetic? Is it environmental? In my experience both academic and in the real world its always a combination of both.

Your genetics and biology predispose you to certain things, and your environment either nurtures or destroys those predispositions.

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Ok, its all about predispositions. The APA, and AAP state there is no scientific proof that there is a biological or genetic component to homosexuality. But their is overwhelming evidence that their is a distinct biological component to sexual orientation. The same hormones, neurotransmitters, and connections in my brain that tell me I like the opposite sex are different in those that are attracted to the same sex as themselves.

Most current research (we can all search wikipedia) shows significant neurological and physiological differences between gay and straight men.

But as always correlation does not imply causation

It's like the personality arguement, or the alcoholic arguement, is it genetic? Is it environmental? In my experience both academic and in the real world its always a combination of both.

Your genetics and biology predispose you to ceratin things, and your environment either nutures or destroys those predispositions.

just cause there is evidence and no proof does not mean it is true :lol:

[ErikS]

just cause there is evidence and no proof does not mean it is true

Why do I get the feeling I'm talking to a chair?