InlineTurbo Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 "I've never changed my mind on Iraq."I don't see how he can recover from that. Even the most partisan person can see that as a bold faced lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickster151 Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 (edited) Bush has changed his mind on Iraq plenty of times. Were'nt we there orignally for WMD's? Now were there for what? Liberation?Didnt we only need $3-4 billion so said GWB? We have spent a HELL of a lot more than that.Screw politicians. Both these chumps are liars.Just my take. Edited October 9, 2004 by Brickster151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Bush has changed his mind on Iraq plenty of times. ←Have you watched the debates at all? what are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickster151 Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Have you watched the debates at all? what are you talking about?←Im not talking about any debate [i've watched the VP debate and this one] , I'm talking about his actions AS president of the United States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachRat Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Bush did look a lot stronger in this second debate, he seemed to have his sh*t sorted out. The fact that he keeps accusing Kerry of flip flops when Kerry explained why he changed his mind shows he doesn't have much to go on. Politicians slap "riders" on bills all the time to either try to sneak them in or to get people to vote against the initial bill. Kerry was paying attention to that one and I think he's done a fair job of showing why he has changed his mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Did bush lie or did he make a human error?How do you think Kerry would have handled the situation? Oh wait, you could never know with the sh*t he pulled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NoGirlyMan Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 :excl: FAMOUS WORDS OF PRESIDENT-wannabe-KERRY Wrong War Wrong Place Wrong Time. It was the RIGHT DECISION to disarm Saddam and when the President made the Decision I SUPPORTED HIM. The Winning of the War was BRILLIANT. I have always said we may yet even find weapons of mass destruction I actually did vote for the $87B before I voted against it. I have never waffled in my life No Flip Flopper 4 President!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckV986 Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 Ok, this one I have to comment onThe Winning of the War was BRILLIANT.There's not period there....Kerry said something to the effect of "The winning of the war was brilliant, but the handling of Iraq after the war was over was terrible"Wrong War Wrong Place Wrong Time.Do you think it wasn't? Don't you think we should have finished off bin Laden, of one of 37 (IIRC) nations that were more capable of producing and delivering a WMD to USA before we went after Iraq? Don't you think we should have thought up a plan of what to do about the anarchy we were creating before we reduced the nation to chaos? And Bush did know what would happen, or at least he should have, given all the CIA reports on his table indicating exactly what would happen.I have always said we may yet even find weapons of mass destructionSo? How is that a demonstration of a flip-flop? Come on now.... Let's be honest. No one really loves the guy, but all of this is just spin.Besides thisI actually did vote for the $87B before I voted against it.But there are literally BOOKS, calenders, etc full of such idiotic and nonsensical statements that Bush has made. If that's how you vote, you might want to consider picking up a few of those "Bushism" books before you decide who's made more contradictory or idiotc statements ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted October 9, 2004 Report Share Posted October 9, 2004 JFTR, I am not "NoGirlMan" and I couldn't tell you who is.Do you think it wasn't? Don't you think we should have finished off bin Laden, of one of 37 (IIRC) nations that were more capable of producing and delivering a WMD to USA before we went after Iraq? Don't you think we should have thought up a plan of what to do about the anarchy we were creating before we reduced the nation to chaos? And Bush did know what would happen, or at least he should have, given all the CIA reports on his table indicating exactly what would happen.No, no, we have a plan and it's being acted out now, I'm sorry to disapoint you with the inevitable anarchy that is taking place, but it's minimal. I invite anyone to come up with some sort of solution, there's nothing you can do to prevent this kind of anarchy. When a regime is taken out of power you have anarchy, and the only way to handle it is the way we are handling it now. If you have an example of a more peaceful process, please, by all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jroot Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 No, no, we have a plan and it's being acted out now, I'm sorry to disapoint you with the inevitable anarchy that is taking place, but it's minimal. I invite anyone to come up with some sort of solution, there's nothing you can do to prevent this kind of anarchy. When a regime is taken out of power you have anarchy, and the only way to handle it is the way we are handling it now. If you have an example of a more peaceful process, please, by all means.←Don't go into a country where we had no business being. But too late for that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted October 11, 2004 Report Share Posted October 11, 2004 (edited) Nevermind, I'd be talking to myself. Edited October 11, 2004 by Legend854T5R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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