Obama Nation

[Boost_Junky]

1st off... most voters are NOT educated enough to choose the correct candidate... not sure where you got that from... and I highlighted that word FEEL since you are using it but if people voted with their feelings... oh man that is horrible... I said it once and I will say it again, if everyone did what they feel and ran their life on feelings nothing would get done and since people are selfish by nature we would all be fucked.

You do realize that nobody ‘knows” anything. Everything you think you “know” is just a feeling. There is no way for you to prove anything exists. It’s very basic psychology. The only absolute proof of anything is in Mathematics. Everything else is given enough evidence that it is seen to be highly likely. Where do you think reasonable doubt came from? All of your “facts” have tons of reasonable doubt and I am sorry you FEEL that way.

Constitution says you need to be 18 years old to vote and a US citizen. Nothing about education or voting on feelings and that is for a reason. There are voters of all types. People who vote because of a funny name, economy, racists lies, propaganda, color, home town, taxes, war monger and so on. A vote represents a percentage of all these things. With them all together, you get a mean average of the general consensus. These ideas and votes represent things that are important to all types of American’s. If you excluded any of them, the vote would not accurately represent the people. We are a country for the people.

These so called “uneducated emotional” voters are your fellow Americans. I see more and more that this doesn’t matter to you. All that seems to matter to you are over exaggerated lies that cater to your ability to be narrow minded. This country is moving on from thoughts like yours. I know it, the American people know it and even the world is beginning to know it.

I am just amazed and disappointed in the 65% that looked passed their heads and facts of him being anti-American and his ties to anti-American organizations...

For the last time, that was propaganda. Don’t believe everything you read or hear. These stories were brought way out of context and you believed them. Most didn’t though. You did.

BTW, All the ivy league schools and educational epicenters of our country… How did they vote? Looked kind of blue on my TV.

I just cannot believe people do not care about the Bill Ayers association... HOW COULD YOU LOOK PAST THAT!?!?!

Have you ever heard of the Socrates “Triple Filter Test?”

What you don’t realize is that I hear other voices speaking through yours. You say people don’t have original ideas and are not thinking on their own. I hear Sean Hannity, Mark Levine, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, CNN and some of our older generations. Mostly though, I hear a crude version of Mark Levine. I don’t hear anything you think about politics that is original. I would settle for insightful and well read, but no. Your comments are regurgitated fear tactics by republican and conservative media and your too blind to see it.

Obama is not perfect. He may not be able to get us out of this mess. But hey, we picked him as the best. Do you believe in the America way? Do you believe in voting?

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ok, lets say that I do not have original ideas and blah blah blah

Does not matter anyways... Obama still had political ties to Bill Ayers who was and is an anti-American/terrorist

so... you are looking past that connection and still calling him a good man

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checke...connection.html

[Boost_Junky]

Sited from your article Dave.

"This whole connection is a stretch," Harrington told me. "Barack was very well known in Chicago, and a highly respected legislator. It would be difficult to find people round here who never volunteered or contributed money to one of his campaigns."

Bill Burton noted in a statement that Ayers was a professor of education at the University of Illinois and a former aide to Mayor Richard M. Daley, and continued:

Senator Obama strongly condemns the violent actions of the Weathermen group, as he does all acts of violence. But he was an eight-year-old child when Ayers and the Weathermen were active, and any attempt to connect Obama with events of almost forty years ago is ridiculous.

[flyfishing3]

ok, lets say that I do not have original ideas and blah blah blah

Does not matter anyways... Obama still had political ties to Bill Ayers who was and is an anti-American/terrorist

so... you are looking past that connection and still calling him a good man

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checke...connection.html

so BOs lose connection to ayers is worse than JM knowingly taking money and PROTECTING his buddy to only receice a slap on the wrist himself. you forget about the Keating five?

:::In the 1980s, McCain strong-armed federal regulators to protect Charles Keating, the crooked banker at the center of the S&L crisis. McCain had accepted $112,000 in campaign contributions, gifts, and trips from Keating, a McCain family friend. Keating went to prison; McCain was only rebuked by the Senate Ethics Committee for his “poor judgment.”:::

[flyfishing3]

i have to laugh but its sad at the same time.

there are only a few of us brave/dumb enough willing to express our opionon and then be willing to discuss it.

polical discussions has never seen so much action since i've been a member. hahaha.

i think this is good we all feel that strong about our country. thats a good thing.

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look I can do that to!

http://therealobama.com/

http://therealobama.info/

I hope you see the difference between S&L and someone that wished he killed more Americans

[flyfishing3]

greg and dave, with your shown views on adoption/abortion , whats you opion of gays adopting?

here's McCains

""""I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family," McCain was quoted in The New York Times, About.com's parent company. "So, no, I don’t believe in gay adoption."

[MikeG]

...so BOs lose connection to ayers is worse than JM knowingly taking money and PROTECTING his buddy...

Sort of... I believe that Dave's a little over-the-top with the "close ties" accusations, but it is true that Obama and Ayers knew each other. That's too close in my book. If I knew someone like Ayers I would "un-know" him pretty quickly. Same goes with Rev. Wright. I would take a stand and walk out on principle and on the record. Is Obama going to be a president who's "polite" to the bad guys? I hope not.

i think this is good we all feel that strong about our country. thats a good thing.

+1 :D

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greg and dave, with your shown views on adoption/abortion , whats you opion of gays adopting?

here's McCains

""""I think that we’ve proven that both parents are important in the success of a family," McCain was quoted in The New York Times, About.com's parent company. "So, no, I don’t believe in gay adoption."

I do not believe in gays adopting

I believe marriage should be between a man and woman and a family should be with a mom and a dad.

I am old fashion when I believe that the point of being on this earth is to praise God and raise a family

[flyfishing3]

I do not believe in gays adopting

so if we were out of hetro houses to adopt a kid, would you rather abort the child or have a gay couple raise them.

agreed totally hypothetical but there has to be a view.

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so if we were out of hetro houses to adopt a kid, would you rather abort the child or have a gay couple raise them.

agreed totally hypothetical but there has to be a view.

I would rather have a single hetro dad or mom raise the kid than abort the kid

and (not possible to NOT have a family that is hetro adopt a kid) *sorry for the double negative* but to humor you.. abortion is a last resort

[DonutsDemise]

It was 53%, not 65%. McCain had 46% of the vote. That's not a landslide victory. Get your facts straight dummy.

the electoral college was a landslide, not nearly Reagan vs Carter but Obama won by 200 votes, not the 25 or so that bush won by both times. (edit: 5 in 2000 and 35 in 2004)

[Boost_Junky]

praise God

Amen, we agree on that brother!

[7 VII 7]

Amen, we agree on that brother!

:)

[larryo108]

the electoral college was a landslide, not nearly Reagan vs Carter but Obama won by 200 votes, not the 25 or so that bush won by both times. (edit: 5 in 2000 and 35 in 2004)

It was a landslide because of how the electoral college is setup. Like was said before the Popular vote was NOT a landslide.