DVolvoguy850T5 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 These facts are old. You can check them out at your public library. Snops is bogus. A LITTLE GUN HISTORY In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated ------------------------------ Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ---- ------------- ------------- Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ------------------------------ Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated. ----------------------------- Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million. ------------------------------ It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: List of 7 items: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent. Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent. Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed. There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it. You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens. Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late! The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson. With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'. During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED! If you value your freedom, please spread this anti-gun control message to all of your friends. The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield, and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental. SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!! IT'S A NO BRAINER! DON'T LET OUR GOVERNMENT WASTE MILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS IN AN EFFORT TO MAKE ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AN EASY TARGET. I'm a firm believer of the 2nd Amendment! If you are too, please forward. Democrat........It's what's wrong with America. Always vote with history in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I'm pro A2, but anti-propaganda. Ask Paul what soap boxing gets you here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownTurboBrick Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 most ppl here are pro guns anyways Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteT5 Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN! SWITZERLAND 'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE. SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!Last I checked, Switzerland didn't have a ton of gangbangers "livin da thug life"... just saying. Other than using this point for argument, I agree with your stance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldJ Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I'm pro A2, but anti-propaganda. Ask Paul what soap boxing gets you here+1This is like talking religion at work, you just dont do it man. Dont get me wrong though I probably have more ar's than your local cops do, as they are my other hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaskMule Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 These facts are old. You can check them out at your public library. Snops is bogus. Democrat........It's what's wrong with America. Always vote with history in mind.America . Fuck yeah. Keep rollin', you'll figure out whats wrong eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Burnsy Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I don't see why this is even relevant. There is a reason why the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms.There is no way that this country (at least every where besides the North East) will have gun control.But there are ups and downs of living in a police state like Massachusetts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROTech Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 im not pro gun yet i dont want the gov telling me what to do. I wouldnt use a gun in self defense but like the idea i could and like the idea i can own what i want on my own land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 At least get some quality sources toe back up the facts It's alright, I'm guilty of it to. Shoot me now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaskMule Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 I don't see why this is even relevant. There is a reason why the 2nd amendment is the right to bear arms.I'm a bit reluctant to get into all this, it's a huge subject, but anyway; The second amendment was created during a time of war. There was a need to arm citizens at that time legally for the duration of the war. Up to that point, it had been illegal for the common citizen to own a firearm. The original intent of the writers was to remove the amendment after the war was done. That never happened. Ooops. Now the US has THE worst gun culture issues on the planet, and it continues to worsen. I have no idea how to solve the issue, but giving everyone easy access guns sounds good, go for it. </sarcasm> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escalante Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 What do you really think is going to happen if the US government goes knocking on doors to collect guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicaljake Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 gun control wont work.bad people will always have guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DVolvoguy850T5 Posted February 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 +1This is like talking religion at work, you just dont do it man. Dont get me wrong though I probably have more ar's than your local cops do, as they are my other hobby.This is part of the issue. PC is not good either. Just like verbal hate crimes violate the 1st amendment. Now, per Thomas Jefferson, the 2nd amendment was created to enable the people to defend themselves against a tyranical government.So we are not allowed to talk about this stuff at work, what's next? Think about it! (my anti virus will not let me down load spell check) I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownTurboBrick Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 it's pretty simple... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJGcrUk2eE :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldJ Posted February 21, 2009 Report Share Posted February 21, 2009 This is part of the issue. PC is not good either. Just like verbal hate crimes violate the 1st amendment. Now, per Thomas Jefferson, the 2nd amendment was created to enable the people to defend themselves against a tyranical government.So we are not allowed to talk about this stuff at work, what's next? Think about it! (my anti virus will not let me down load spell check) I wonder why?Usually when you mix religion with work you lose business and friends. A topic like gun control in the US is the same way. I do a lot of business in the mid-west, south, and south east. I avoid the north east like the pleage. No offience guys just some if not most up there are rude as hell. But anyway in all the business and travels I see all kinds of people with different beliefs. A good friend of mine is Muslim, he doesnt brag and he doesnt push propaganda. If he did I would probably not do any work for him anymore. That is just an example. Some subjects are better left out of business and mixed company. For instance if someone on here started a PRO-PETA thread I would probably not do any business with that person. If they sold anything or if they were doing a group buy. So some things are better left unsaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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