Safe To Say Bush Wins?

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How the Electoral College Works

The current workings of the Electoral College are the result of both design and experience. As it now operates:

Each State is allocated a number of Electors equal to the number of its U.S. Senators (always 2) plus the number of its U.S. Representatives (which may change each decade according to the size of each State's population as determined in the Census).

The political parties (or independent candidates) in each State submit to the State's chief election official a list of individuals pledged to their candidate for president and equal in number to the State's electoral vote. Usually, the major political parties select these individuals either in their State party conventions or through appointment by their State party leaders while third parties and independent candidates merely designate theirs.

Members of Congress and employees of the federal government are prohibited from serving as an Elector in order to maintain the balance between the legislative and executive branches of the federal government.

After their caucuses and primaries, the major parties nominate their candidates for president and vice president in their national conventions

traditionally held in the summer preceding the election. (Third parties and independent candidates follow different procedures according to the individual State laws). The names of the duly nominated candidates are then officially submitted to each State's chief election official so that they might appear on the general election ballot.

On the Tuesday following the first Monday of November in years divisible by four, the people in each State cast their ballots for the party slate of Electors representing their choice for president and vice president (although as a matter of practice, general election ballots normally say "Electors for" each set of candidates rather than list the individual Electors on each slate).

Whichever party slate wins the most popular votes in the State becomes that State's Electors-so that, in effect, whichever presidential ticket gets the most popular votes in a State wins all the Electors of that State. [The two exceptions to this are Maine and Nebraska where two Electors are chosen by statewide popular vote and the remainder by the popular vote within each Congressional district].

On the Monday following the second Wednesday of December (as established in federal law) each State's Electors meet in their respective State capitals and cast their electoral votes-one for president and one for vice president.

In order to prevent Electors from voting only for "favorite sons" of their home State, at least one of their votes must be for a person from outside their State (though this is seldom a problem since the parties have consistently nominated presidential and vice presidential candidates from different States).

The electoral votes are then sealed and transmitted from each State to the President of the Senate who, on the following January 6, opens and reads them before both houses of the Congress.

The candidate for president with the most electoral votes, provided that it is an absolute majority (one over half of the total), is declared president. Similarly, the vice presidential candidate with the absolute majority of electoral votes is declared vice president.

In the event no one obtains an absolute majority of electoral votes for president, the U.S. House of Representatives (as the chamber closest to the people) selects the president from among the top three contenders with each State casting only one vote and an absolute majority of the States being required to elect. Similarly, if no one obtains an absolute majority for vice president, then the U.S. Senate makes the selection from among the top two contenders for that office.

At noon on January 20, the duly elected president and vice president are sworn into office.

Occasionally questions arise about what would happen if the pesidential or vice presidential candidate died at some point in this process.For answers to these, as well as to a number of other "what if" questions, readers are advised to consult a small volume entitled After the People Vote: Steps in Choosing the President edited by Walter Berns and published in 1983 by the American Enterprise Institute. Similarly, further details on the history and current functioning of the Electoral College are available in the second edition of Congressional Quarterly's Guide to U.S. Elections, a real goldmine of information, maps, and statistics.

[Noahkk19]

I see the light

haha

Thanks Greg B)

[matt1122]

FLA + OH = All that matter now.

[Guest DougK]

See what I mean, I "entertain" the GF for a bit, when I started, it was 206-207 now its 269-207

ahh how things change

[gdizzle]

See what I mean, I "entertain" the GF for a bit, when I started, it was 206-207 now its 269-207

ahh how things change

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VIVA BUSH!!!

[ontheheel]

if he doesn't conceed this morning, i will lose whatever respect i once had for john kerry. i also tip my hat to president Bush for not declaring victory so that john kerry can make up his mind (is it any wonder that kerry cant make up his mind whether he won or not? ).

on a happier note: daschle is gone!

[mmetz]

gotta love how the Bush admin is allowing time for Kerry to "reflect" apon the current situation.

Kerry won't concede - he'll go down whinning all the way. What else do expect from a couple of lawyers?

[Guest DougK]

on a happier note: daschle is gone!

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Point 1: LOL @ "teen" vote.

Point 2: I think the electoral college system is working just fine. Bush has majority of states and the popular vote. Seems to be working fine to me.

Point 3: No more Daschle thank god

Point 4: Even if Bush didn't win, atleast the house/senate have become a bit more to the right.

[ontheheel]

ROCK ON!!! kerry just phoned bush to conceed! i am proud of him, that was definitley the classy thing to do.

i'm pumped

[Noahkk19]

Point 1: LOL @ "teen" vote.

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AGREED

Kids were doing that in my sociology class last week, I found it sooo ridiculous. My school was like 89% Kerry 11% Bush.

[InlineTurbo]

Here is a visual illustration of the point. Notice all the "Red" states and the lesser amount of "Blue" states, but the overal electoral votes:

The only thing that disturbs me is that California and N.Y. have huge amounts of Electoral votes compared to their size. This is mostly due to a few major cities. You can lump Texas in there as well, but at least they have the land to back it up. Basically almost any Democrat starts with 107 (CA, N.Y. and super corrupt Illinois) electoral votes. If you took out Texas, California, and N.Y. then things would be a lot more interesting. Or at least split their votes like Maine can. This would break up the sure lock 55 'blue' electoral votes.

Edited November 4, 2004 by InlineTurbo

[matt1122]

AGREED

Kids were doing that in my sociology class last week, I found it sooo ridiculous. My school was like 89% Kerry 11% Bush.

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That's because more people's favorite color is blue than red.

[InlineTurbo]

Here is the election map broken down by county. Looks really bad for the Democrats. If you listen to them the last few days they can't figure out why they got destroyed. They think they didn't do a good enough job getting their candide's ideas to the public. Its just the opposite. They did get their candidate's ideas out and nobody liked them. Plus they are whining about dirty campaigning. Coming from the people who had Micheal Moore and George Sorros out and out lying and cheating as hard as they could is just a tad hipocritical.

[Bay13]

Some of those blue states are not so blue.

[wills]

So what do the Dems say now? "It's about values, morals etc."

So who do they have as the moral spokesman to relay the values? BILL CLINTON!!!! They got to be kidding, CLINTON = MORALS???? ;)