Guest guest Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Keep in mind Audi has what is arguably the best AWD systems in the world. Then again I hope the Volvo's not like a scubby when it comes to Drag.how much drag does the scubby have? It doesn't seem to slow mine down. subaru is also at the top with its AWD system. I'll take the V70R in a quarter mile win.---2004 subaru forester xt 5M, 1/4 mile 13.94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted April 11, 2004 Report Share Posted April 11, 2004 Even the WRX's system gets 26% loss, typically. Audi's DT is reported (from dyno tests) to be capable of losing only 15%, phenomenal for an AWD system. High Dyno DT loss for an audi quattro is about 20%-21%. That's what makes it so much better.Subaru AWD typically adds 200lbs to the cars weight compared to if it was only FWD (like the old scoobys). The Audi only adds about 150lbs compared to their FrontTrak drivetrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 Wanna talk about top end having teh suck on a Subaru?Here's the best time slip I ever got in my '02 Sport Wagon60: 1.905660: 8.831320: 13.945MPH: 94.59Yeah, I posted a sub 9-second 1/8th mile and only ran a 13.94. Any other car would have run a mid-low 13, but if you look at my MPH, it's insanely low for that ET. Most cars woulda been over 100 mph.Gosh, musta had something to do with the guy behind the wheel knowing how to drive the hell outta that car -Dana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DougK Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 hehehe.. yep. So true. Its a prime example of being fast becaue of traction Figure, the majority or RWD or FWD only cars running 13.9 are very close over just over 100mph to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana Posted May 14, 2004 Report Share Posted May 14, 2004 hehehe.. yep. So true. Its a prime example of being fast becaue of traction Figure, the majority or RWD or FWD only cars running 13.9 are very close over just over 100mph to do it.Not only traction, but I would powershift which would give me a few tenths. I was actually fighting traction on the front tires because it would get so light and I'd get spin. The STi has a LSD up front and it's easy to get 1.8 or even 1.7 short times because of it.My buddy's stock STi ran a 13.37@100.56 the first time he ever went to the track, with a 1.77 60'. Sick, just plain sick.-Dana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s60r Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 NO MATTER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THE 850 R STILL LOOKS LIKE A BOX WITH WHEELS AND ITS OUTDATED TIME TO GET A NEW VOLVO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 NO MATTER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THE 850 R STILL LOOKS LIKE A BOX WITH WHEELS AND ITS OUTDATED TIME TO GET A NEW VOLVOYou are far outnumbered, time to STFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s60r Posted May 24, 2004 Report Share Posted May 24, 2004 I GUESS I WAS RIGHT SEEING HOW DEFENSIVE YOU HAVE BECOME, DONT GET MAD I WAS JUST POSTING MY OPINION AND THE TRUTH, THAT IS WHAT THIS SITE IS FOR,ITS OK IF YOU CANT AFFORD A NEW ONE, AND NEXT TIME WATCH YOUR MOUTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boosted2003 Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Not only traction, but I would powershift which would give me a few tenths. I was actually fighting traction on the front tires because it would get so light and I'd get spin. The STi has a LSD up front and it's easy to get 1.8 or even 1.7 short times because of it.My buddy's stock STi ran a 13.37@100.56 the first time he ever went to the track, with a 1.77 60'. Sick, just plain sick.-Dana Yeah, My friend ran 13 flat in his sti with just k&n filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swdracr Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 NO MATTER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN THE 850 R STILL LOOKS LIKE A BOX WITH WHEELS AND ITS OUTDATED TIME TO GET A NEW VOLVOFirst of all:Secondly, we're all very happy your mommy and daddy just bought you a new R, or maybe bought themselves one and let you drive it with your permit, but until you come up with an intelligent opinion (or at least find your caps lock key), don't waste our time.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volflo Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 Actually it's 308.. About the comparison,What are we talking here?All 300 HP manuals, FWD for the older models or AWD for the older V70R model?If all have an honest and strong 300 HP the 850R will come out on top at 155 mph.The new R loses it's speed above 120 mph. Also the 3rd gear isn't as dramatic as the 850's 3rd gear performance. 850 probably loses a second to 60 but will gain 2-3 seconds to 125 mph. i totally agree. (and not just because its johann )the 04 R models are a big laugh when stock. sorry to say that.but even the ppc tuned models are not breath taking. they are very nice cars, but compared to an s4 biturbo tuned to like 320 horses.... anyway: the suspension is brilliant (at least with shorter springs, cant say about stock springs), really brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volflo Posted May 25, 2004 Report Share Posted May 25, 2004 We are assuming its a 5 speed 850, hello? :-PAnyway, I was thinking on the ride home, in that almost-but-not-quite-rwd DSTC mode would there be more or less power train loss than normal? Then would there be any drag?....and a 5 speed 850R implies........TATATATA:visco LSD!!!!!!! . so off the line is a LOT better than with normal 850 T5 5 speed (which i had before) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem_c70 Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 I say a 300 bhp tuned c70 will be the fastest to 155, sorry it was not an option here. And is still the second best looking volvo p1800/2000 looks better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 The C70 weighs more, tough guy. No way it would win with those ... 200 lbs is it? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willem_c70 Posted May 26, 2004 Report Share Posted May 26, 2004 To help you guy'sThe weight of all cars incl C70 as giving in "autoweek", a dutch car magazineCar trans make weight (kg) weight (lb)850R M 1441 3177850R A 1472 3245S60R M 1589 3503S60R A 1604 3536S70R M 1424 3139S70R A 1423 3137V70R M <2000 1478 3258V70R A <2000 1476 3254V70R M >2000 1682 3708V70R A >2000 1697 3741C70 T5 M <1999 1478 3258C70 T5 A <1999 1507 3322C70 T5 M >1999 1453 3203C70 T5 A >1999 1479 3260See here the heaviest C70 in not even 200 lb heavier then the lightest 850R.I should have the heaviest one but on my ownership paper it says 1465 kg or 3230 lb so only 53 lb heavier.Tried to get a normal line-out, didn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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