Pops Racer Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 It passed last night along party lines. Pelosi hails it a landmark vote, along the significance of Social Security And Medicare. SS, billions of $'s underfunded, bankrupt. Fail Medicare, billions of dollars underfunded, bankrupt. Fail USPS--broke.Fail US Dept of Education. Fail, dropout rates and literacy rates in the shitter. CASh4clunkers? $24,000 per car and most vehicles bought were pickup trucks, that had worse gas mileage than the ones scrapped. or japmoblies. FannyMae, FreddyMac?--Broke and begging for more money, and helped start this economic misery. Trillion dollar stimulus, and 10.2% unemployment. Are there any other govt run plans that you can think of that are broken? Keep sending them money, and they will find a way to blow it. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 yup... and the House of Rep still would not want this to be their health care plan. in 2010 my copay goes up $5... my ER visits go up $25 to $125 And my premium goes up $$ just waiting for the worse to happppppppen 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L8 APEKS Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I like how ppl blame Obama for all of this crap, when it's been going down the tubes LONG before he was old enough to drive a car, let alone since he's been in office. Not saying YOU'RE ignorant enough to blame one person, but it's astounding how many people ARE. I was behind a car not long ago that had a cardboard sign in the back that read "Obama, this is YOUR economy." News flash...no, it isn't. It's Bush's. But ignorance is bliss, I suppose. All this anti-gov't sentiment is really pointless. Unless you're going to mount a bloody anarchistic revolution and overthrow the "evil empire," I don't see what the point in whining is. The other thing that gets me, is that why did all this anti-Big Brother talk just start, after Obama became elected? I never saw or heard ANYTHING about people complaining to this degree about the Gov't...yet it's un-changed...exactly the same as it's always been...getting worse one day at a time...until now, all of a sudden, people think it's the end of the world. I don't get people sometimes. lol. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 eh, it wont get through the Senate 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smithwicks Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Pelosi hails it a landmark vote, along the significance of Social Security And Medicare. SS, billions of $'s underfunded, bankrupt. Fail Medicare, billions of dollars underfunded, bankrupt. Fail Thank you for pointing this out! It is rather interesting how she left out how SS and Medicare are now doing. Not surprised though. All this anti-gov't sentiment is really pointless. Unless you're going to mount a bloody anarchistic revolution and overthrow the "evil empire," I don't see what the point in whining is. The other thing that gets me, is that why did all this anti-Big Brother talk just start, after Obama became elected? I never saw or heard ANYTHING about people complaining to this degree about the Gov't...yet it's un-changed...exactly the same as it's always been...getting worse one day at a time...until now, all of a sudden, people think it's the end of the world. Fair point. I have noticed it post-election. Well after the election Republicans didnt have much of anything to define wtf they were doing and in the end they found the anti-govt movement and jumped on it. And Fox News got on board with it as well. It seems Republicans dont want big government when they arent in power...but when they are, well... And its kinda funny how the Republican party is all gung-ho about small government now when in fact they did all they could to get Ron Paul off the stage during the Republican primaries <_< ...who was the only one up there who was in favor of smaller government then. Ask them about that one. In the end...Democrat...Republican...their all politicians first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 Thank you for pointing this out! It is rather interesting how she left out how SS and Medicare are now doing. Not surprised though. Fair point. I have noticed it post-election. Well after the election Republicans didnt have much of anything to define wtf they were doing and in the end they found the anti-govt movement and jumped on it. And Fox News got on board with it as well. It seems Republicans dont want big government when they arent in power...but when they are, well... And its kinda funny how the Republican party is all gung-ho about small government now when in fact they did all they could to get Ron Paul off the stage during the Republican primaries <_< ...who was the only one up there who was in favor of smaller government then. Ask them about that one. In the end...Democrat...Republican...their all politicians first. I wouldn't say it's the republicans, but the conservative movement sweeping through the country. The republican party is just trying to ride on the coat tails of this movement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I like how ppl blame Obama for all of this crap, when it's been going down the tubes LONG before he was old enough to drive a car, let alone since he's been in office. Not saying YOU'RE ignorant enough to blame one person, but it's astounding how many people ARE. I was behind a car not long ago that had a cardboard sign in the back that read "Obama, this is YOUR economy." News flash...no, it isn't. It's Bush's. But ignorance is bliss, I suppose. All this anti-gov't sentiment is really pointless. Unless you're going to mount a bloody anarchistic revolution and overthrow the "evil empire," I don't see what the point in whining is. The other thing that gets me, is that why did all this anti-Big Brother talk just start, after Obama became elected? I never saw or heard ANYTHING about people complaining to this degree about the Gov't...yet it's un-changed...exactly the same as it's always been...getting worse one day at a time...until now, all of a sudden, people think it's the end of the world. I don't get people sometimes. lol. Obama hasn't done anything to help the situation, infact, he's done the complete opposite. You can't deny the C4C program was idiocy at its finest. As for the anti-big government talk, it's been going on long before Obama was elected and gained popularity in Bush's second term when he went on a money spending binge. The fact the Obama has doubled the nations debt in the short amount of time has further escalated things... The thing that really scares people, are the things Obama has discussed doing (civilian army, cap and trade, etc) and the people he has associated himself before and since his election. Open your eyes, and you'll see for yourself that this dude sucks balls. I'm not one of these scared people, but I think we're heading down a bad path. I don't know about you, but I'm not into paying anymore taxes either which is exactly where we're heading. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan850-t5 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 I like how ppl blame Obama for all of this crap, when it's been going down the tubes LONG before he was old enough to drive a car, let alone since he's been in office. Not saying YOU'RE ignorant enough to blame one person, but it's astounding how many people ARE. I was behind a car not long ago that had a cardboard sign in the back that read "Obama, this is YOUR economy." News flash...no, it isn't. It's Bush's. But ignorance is bliss, I suppose. All this anti-gov't sentiment is really pointless. Unless you're going to mount a bloody anarchistic revolution and overthrow the "evil empire," I don't see what the point in whining is. The other thing that gets me, is that why did all this anti-Big Brother talk just start, after Obama became elected? I never saw or heard ANYTHING about people complaining to this degree about the Gov't...yet it's un-changed...exactly the same as it's always been...getting worse one day at a time...until now, all of a sudden, people think it's the end of the world. I don't get people sometimes. lol. The effects of the economy started even before the bush era with the repeal of the glass seagall act during the clinton era. However, the bush administration exacerbated the problem with increased spending and that has continued into the obama administration. The anti gov't talk started with with the groundswell of grass roots republicans and then the national media picked it up. the rep party is just riding the wave right now. It's not like they are going to shoot something down that helps them The thing i am scared about is obama is such a smooth talker, his issues get glossed over and people don't really pay attention to the issues. I agree there needs to be some form of gov't help but the amount at which the gov't is intervening is excessive. People feel entitled to too much and want the gov't to pay for it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 9, 2009 Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 eh, it wont get through the Senate yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Racer Posted November 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2009 L8APEKS, You don't know me. At all. I've been on these bastards since Reagan. And if you check my posts, I'm on Congress and Senate as well as The Holy One. Stop whining? How about I have the right to complain about anything I want whenever I want? Just sit there and take the fist in the ass, what are you fucking nuts? I've called all 5 congressman in CT, and both Senators. Plus emails. You think I waste my voice on your dumb ass, without letting the people who can do something about know how I feel? I'm not some dumb sheep you can lead to the slaughter, bone head. ANd yeah, if the situation warranted an uprising, I'd be there. How bout you? You'd rather sit there in your fat little life and let them suck your freedom from you, you free speech, your free thought, your free association? Read the Constitution, every friggin word, and get back to me about how things can't be changed. I spent 15 yrs in uniform defending that document, and I'll damn well say what the fuck ever I want to about the un-American scum in the White House and the Capitol. Do you really believe they are doing whats best for the country? Bet you don't even vote, loser. These motherfuckers are gonna kill small business with taxes and health care mandates, killing any hope of job growth. Finance a bridge? Where do the jobs go when the bridge is built?. Health care savings accounts will be gone. Care will be delayed, there fore care is denied. Oregon just reported that the stimulus created 9000 new jobs. 6000 of 'em were govt positions. Govt jobs FTMFL. Wake up or bend over. I'm tired of this passive bullshit from people who don't know shit about politics, economics, or sociology. Or more importantly history. The whole fucking concept of the Fed in my life is un-Constitutional. Lock and Load bitches. It's as American as you can get. And yeah I'm pissed and a bit crazy. Nothing personal, just business, Fredo. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 L8APEKS, You don't know me. At all. I've been on these bastards since Reagan. And if you check my posts, I'm on Congress and Senate as well as The Holy One. Stop whining? How about I have the right to complain about anything I want whenever I want? Just sit there and take the fist in the ass, what are you fucking nuts? I've called all 5 congressman in CT, and both Senators. Plus emails. You think I waste my voice on your dumb ass, without letting the people who can do something about know how I feel? I'm not some dumb sheep you can lead to the slaughter, bone head. ANd yeah, if the situation warranted an uprising, I'd be there. How bout you? You'd rather sit there in your fat little life and let them suck your freedom from you, you free speech, your free thought, your free association? Read the Constitution, every friggin word, and get back to me about how things can't be changed. I spent 15 yrs in uniform defending that document, and I'll damn well say what the fuck ever I want to about the un-American scum in the White House and the Capitol. Do you really believe they are doing whats best for the country? Bet you don't even vote, loser. These motherfuckers are gonna kill small business with taxes and health care mandates, killing any hope of job growth. Finance a bridge? Where do the jobs go when the bridge is built?. Health care savings accounts will be gone. Care will be delayed, there fore care is denied. Oregon just reported that the stimulus created 9000 new jobs. 6000 of 'em were govt positions. Govt jobs FTMFL. Wake up or bend over. I'm tired of this passive bullshit from people who don't know shit about politics, economics, or sociology. Or more importantly history. The whole fucking concept of the Fed in my life is un-Constitutional. Lock and Load bitches. It's as American as you can get. And yeah I'm pissed and a bit crazy. Nothing personal, just business, Fredo. quoted because it needed to be. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtl321 Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 quoted because it needed to be. +1 To that http://www.youtube.c...h?v=3dWsxMD057w 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Racer Posted November 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Y'all gonna make me lose my mind, up in here, up in here. L8apeks attacks the messenger without addressing the facts or the issues. Clowder-Pivens Strategy. The other part of the plan Alinsky Doctrine. Obama is a Graduate of Columbia University and the Chicago political machine, Both cited here. Hillary Clinton is also a disciple of Alinsky. The behavior of the Clinton WH, friends and staffers, can be attributed to these policies. Don't like what I want or stand for? They destroy you personally. Paul Begala and James Carville were the pro's pro's at this. Just ask any woman who tried to level a charge against Bubba. The Pelosians and the Obamites are slaves to these ideas. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brick-a-brac Posted January 11, 2010 Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 L8apeks attacks the messenger without addressing the facts or the issues. Clowder-Pivens Strategy. The other part of the plan Alinsky Doctrine. Obama is a Graduate of Columbia University and the Chicago political machine, Both cited here. Hillary Clinton is also a disciple of Alinsky. The behavior of the Clinton WH, friends and staffers, can be attributed to these policies. Don't like what I want or stand for? They destroy you personally. Paul Begala and James Carville were the pro's pro's at this. Just ask any woman who tried to level a charge against Bubba. The Pelosians and the Obamites are slaves to these ideas. Hmmm -- citing a completely unbiased source, I see: Red baiting R Us 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Racer Posted January 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2010 Hmmm -- citing a completely unbiased source, I see: Red baiting R Us Does not dispute the facts and history of Alinsky, Cloward and Pivens. Use another source, I don't care what it is, and tell me that these are lies about those 3 communists. Tell me their intent isn't to change the structure of the U.S. Change my mind. I got pics of C&P on the dais with Clinton as he signs a bill, the fraud ridden Motor-Voter law.More info, if you take off the Rose colored glasses. Is it a coincidence that C&P were professors at Columbia University, Obamas Alma matter, and a CHicago based community organizer? Or that Alinsky was a Chicago based radical/ community organizer during the times the Chicago ward politics was at it's hay day? And a Capone sycophant in his youth? Mrs. Clinton was also a Chicago area wonk in the day. Whats your unbiased source, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, LA Times, Chicago Tribune? You can gloss over history all you want but you can't change the truth. Start disputing facts without opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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