House Health Care Passes

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Does not dispute the facts and history of Alinsky, Cloward and Pivens. Use another source, I don't care what it is, and tell me that these are lies about those 3 communists. Tell me their intent isn't to change the structure of the U.S. Change my mind.

I got pics of C&P on the dais with Clinton as he signs a bill, the fraud ridden Motor-Voter law.More info, if you take off the Rose colored glasses.

Is it a coincidence that C&P were professors at Columbia University, Obamas Alma matter, and a CHicago based community organizer? Or that Alinsky was a Chicago based radical/ community organizer during the times the Chicago ward politics was at it's hay day? And a Capone sycophant in his youth? Mrs. Clinton was also a Chicago area wonk in the day.

Whats your unbiased source, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, Washington Post, San Francisco Chronicle, LA Times, Chicago Tribune?

You can gloss over history all you want but you can't change the truth. Start disputing facts without opinion.

I would answer by saying that there are idealogues behind every administration. Consider the influence wielded by Project for New American Century, Kristol, et. al. on the previous eight years. Did this amount to a takeover of anything? Hardly. Did those on the left point this out as something of a takeover conspiracy? You betcha.

Lately, I've found myself in a position to rebut the most outlandish claims based on internet sources that turned out to be largely misinformation that sounded really convincing. I regard most everything I encounter on the net as something that requires additional verification. Usually, it does not stand that test.

Bottom line: don't believe everything you read. Verify.

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Ummm, facts are still true about the 3 stooges.

And I don't think the right wing cabal you speak of wanted to destroy the system by putting everyone on welfare and over taxing the social safety net.

And then shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Still trying to justify your vote for Obama or what? :D

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Ummm, facts are still true about the 3 stooges.

And I don't think the right wing cabal you speak of wanted to destroy the system by putting everyone on welfare and over taxing the social safety net.

And then shredding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Still trying to justify your vote for Obama or what?

No, they simply wanted to create an imperial presidency by misconstruing the Constitution while dismantling civil liberties in an atmosphere of a constant state of war against an amorphous enemy. Of course, David Addington, one of the architects of the warrantless wiretapping policy, carried a copy of the Constitution around with him. It will be hard to know how history will judge the last administration -- especially the office of Vice President -- because Addington was rather effective at elevating executive privilege to a level never before seen in the history of this Republic.

Oh, and while we're talking about redistribution:

Facts.

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You keep confusing me with a Republican. By the way the tide will turn against Obamites, it has already begun.

Still have not refuted Cloward, PIvens, Alinsky, because you can't. And the cabal you have spoken of is not in power now, the new left is.

By the way, nearly 30% of all attacks on US since 9/11 have occurred in the last 9 months, Oba-maos watch...

Were you troubled by the Bushies policies on terrorism? I wasn't, because no one died by Islamo facist actions.

"Little Rock – Authorities have identified the soldier killed in Monday’s double-shooting outside a U.S Army recruitment office in west Little Rock.

According to Pulaski County Coroner Garland Camper, 23-year-old William Long of Conway died shortly after being transported to a Little Rock hospital.

Police say the incident occurred around 10:15 a.m. at a U.S. Army Navy Career Center inside the Ashley Square Shopping Center at 9112 North Rodney Parham Road. According to Lt. Terry Hastings with the Little Rock Police Department, two enlisted soldiers standing outside the office were hit when a suspect drove up in a black SUV and began shooting.

-As with most islamic terrorist acts this was done by a low life to cowardly to face them man to man.

At a briefing Monday afternoon, Little Rock police chief Stuart Thomas identified the suspect as Abdul Hakim Mujahid Muhammad, 24, of Little Rock. Thomas says Muhammad also goes by the name Carlos Bledsoe.

-Another brainwashed convert to the cult.

Hastings identified the second wounded soldier as Quinton Ezeagwula, age unknown. He remains at a local hospital in stable condition with non-life-threatening injuries.

Muhammad led police on a brief pursuit towards downtown Little Rock, before being taken into custody in the area of the Interstate 30/630 interchange. Authorities searched the vehicle and found an assault rifle, Hastings said. A bomb squad was called in, as police were concerned about two bags in the vehicle, but no explosives were found, he said.

-Looks like this guy was afraid to fight a real jihad and took the easy was out, his personal cowardice was confirmed by his surrender.

At the Monday-afternoon briefing, Thomas said investigators believe Muhammad acted alone, and likely carried “political and religious motives.” Thomas said the gunman targeted the military but was not believed to be part of a broader scheme.

-No scheme just the normal old islam.

Muhammad faces one capital murder charge, and 15 counts of terroristic acts.

The FBI has opened an investigation into the incident, said Steven Frazier, spokesman for the agency’s Little Rock office. “Based on what we find, we will determine whether there is any federal jurisdiction to prosecute,” he said.

-I did not know they could refuse a terror case. May be they should schedule a new round of islamic awareness training classes. (Dripping contempt and scorn)

According to Army Lt. Col. Thomas F. Artis, Long and Ezeagwula were not recruiters, but part of a recruiting program called “hometown recruiting assistance.” Artis says recruiters use soldiers to tell their stories and talk to potential recruits while they are visiting or based back in their home region.

Long and Ezeagwula were just out of basic training, Artis said, and had not been deployed.

-Everyone that puts on the uniform understands that decision could require the ultimate sacrifice. To die at the hands of a coward is not the way most would pick to go but it happens often to our men and women in uniform. "

And lets not forget FT. Hood.

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You keep confusing me with a Republican. By the way the tide will turn against Obamites, it has already begun.

Still have not refuted Cloward, PIvens, Alinsky, because you can't. And the cabal you have spoken of is not in power now, the new left is.

By the way, nearly 30% of all attacks on US since 9/11 have occurred in the last 9 months, Oba-maos watch...

Were you troubled by the Bushies policies on terrorism? I wasn't, because no one died by Islamo facist actions.

Well, I am also no leftie - I have found I live longer and with less stress if I avoid extremes ...

My intent is not to refute CPA; I am merely debunking the idea that a so-called "cabal" can change the overall nature of the way in which that cumbersome beast we know as our federal government is run. I tried to do this by illustrating that the previous "cabal" was also ultimately ineffectual in realizing their goals, whatever they were.

But I will say that I AM troubled by the previous administration's policies with respect to terrorism, as I feel that the expanded incursion into Iraq, coupled with those who were wrongly victimized by extraordinary rendition actually helped to spread the appeal of extremist zeal among the Islamic nations.

As to this: <<no one died by Islamo facist actions.>> -- I think you will have to qualify that statement, as it sort of ignores what happened in London and Madrid a few years ago, or Mumbai, or what happens on the streets of Baghdad and Kabul on a regular basis.

That there has been activity within the last nine months indicates that terrorist plots that were launched some time ago are now coming to fruition.

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Or that they feel emboldened by the weak sauce stance of the present admin?

Vote for Brown on the 19th. Help control the out of control Sentate. :D