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Mike, WTF is up with the State of Pennsylvania?!

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Chester-County-Child-Abuse-Murder-281806151.html#

If these two don't get the death penalty then there is no justice.

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I'm all for capital punishment, I don't think there should be such a thing as a life sentence. If they've done something heinous enough they can never be released, we should just put them in front of a firing squad after they've exhausted their appeals and whatnot.

You're phrasing that under the assumption that we know they did it, maybe by their own admission and quality video evidence. But in situations that we don't have evidence of that certainty, and the accused strongly denies the act, do you still think so? Even if there's a chance (however small it might be) they were wrongly convicted?
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Yes, I was working under the assumption they'd been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, lost every appeal (including the extra evidentiary review/appeal death penalty cases have in most places), and would otherwise be in a cell until they died of old age or prison violence. It's certainly not something that should be done lightly or without damning evidence.

How many cases have we found that the guy on death row didn't do it? Too many.

And this is why the guy was still on death row and not dead yet, he was still in the appeals process. I also think there should be a pretty steep penalty for prosecutors who railroad people to pad their conviction rate, up to and including a manslaughter charge for proceeding with a case that leads to an innocent man getting executed.

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Yes, I was working under the assumption they'd been proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, lost every appeal (including the extra evidentiary review/appeal death penalty cases have in most places), and would otherwise be in a cell until they died of old age or prison violence. It's certainly not something that should be done lightly or without damning evidence.

But that system you described has failed before. So I think it's too bold a move to eliminate life sentences. It's easy to say "beyond a reasonable doubt", but the act of defining the line in the sand is easier said than done.
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I'm absolutely for the death sentence in certain cases, but I've been shocked when I read or heard stories of cases with "absolute proof" being wrong before too.

As far as using the death sentence to eliminate overcrowding in prisons, that wouldn't have enough effect to justify it as the means to the end. We need to reform our ridiculous "drunk" driving laws. The prisons aren't filled with rapists, murderers and pedophiles; the majority are drunks, drug addicts and dead beat parents.

Just out of curiosity, who went through here with all the completely random negs??

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It wasn't random nor was it a single person who negged some of the posts. Some of them are due to several people + and - against a specific post.

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