Che'_Moderator Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Discuss 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT5M Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Is this good or bad... Is it now safe to buy a new Volvo? What year will china begin producing and what will they be bringing to the table as the new owners? +1 to safety or -1? Im very curious if I should stick to the pre ford buyout models. IE 850, 960. , or the new china buyout . 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperToast Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 thanks to ford and their being stupid and buying up great euro car companies and jacking up everything with those companies and cars ( ), now the Swedes are Chinese. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT5M Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Is this good or bad... Is it now safe to buy a new Volvo? What year will china begin producing and what will they be bringing to the table as the new owners? +1 to safety or -1? Im very curious if I should stick to the pre ford buyout models. IE 850, 960. , or the new china buyout . also if anyone is curious? http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKLDE5BM0VB20091223?pageNumber=1 its about the buyout 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Lead paint and lead gasoline? No, lead alloys. The only thing softer than an OEM volvo rim Lead pegs... when you thought they couldn't get heavier. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scandalo Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 90 percent of people here will never buy a new Volvo so I've never taken much stock in the company. Don't get me wrong I am a brand loyalist but besides maybe the C30 new Volvos don't do what the Rs did for me. But as long as Volvo engineers stay ahead of the game as far as safety innovations and concept design then maybe they have a fighting chance. A few billion is no laughing matter so we will just have to see what chinese ownership does to our brand. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Riker Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 I'm a little concerned with the general conception that anything from China is made with quantity in mind, over quality. Not to say they couldn't produce a high quality product, but it's seems to me it's just a different mentality and/or approach there. My guess? Volvo cars will become more affordable, while loosing some quality and safety ratings. Ironically enough, I remember someone remarking that the new S60 looks like it had it's butt influenced by a Japanese car... the civic. I agree, and will try to keep my turd on the road for as long as I can. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madman of the People Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Here's the e-mail I sent to Alan Mulally through Ford's website concerning the sale of Volvo to Geely. https://secure.ford.com/footer/contact-ford/contact-us-email?contactMainTopic=GeneralCorporate A message for Alan Mulally. Alan, I have owned three Volvos and two Fords and I am writing to express my anger at your company's decision to sell Volvo to a Chinese comapny, Geely. If you sell Volvo to the Chinese, I will never, never, NEVER buy another Volvo ever again. In addition, I will NEVER buy another Ford, either! I can understand and appreciate the reasons why you might consider selling Volvo. (although, given Ford's recent return to profitability, I don't see why you have to sell Volvo at this time?) But, knowing how the Chinese operate, I see nothing good coming from the sale of Volvo to a company that is simply an extension of a brutal, totalitarian Communist regime. Rest assured, if this sale goes through, neither I or anyone in my extended family will ever buy another Ford product ever again! Also, I will encourage all my friends, relatives and business associates to avoid Ford products in the future. ************************************************************************** I know it won't do any good, but I wanted to vent my anger at Ford for letting Volvo fall into the hands of the Chinese. Damn you, FORD! Madman of the People 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Madman of the People Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 I should also add that I encourage all of you to contact Ford and express your displeasure. Cheers, Madman of the People 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesoam Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 i don't know how i feel about driving a Varvo 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaS60 Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 i don't know how i feel about driving a Varvo Ha yea this all makes me feel a rittle wronry :lol: 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT5M Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 1st. I wont ever own a Ford Volvo. 2nd. some how im doubting I will ever own anything other then a volvo now that I have tasted the 854. 3rd. Ehhh cant rag on china to much. Emissions Due to rapidly expanding wealth and prosperity, the number of coal power plants and cars on China's roads is rapidly growing, creating an ongoing pollution problem. China enacted its first emissions controls on automobiles in 2000, equivalent to Euro I standards. China's State Environmental Protection Administration (SEPA) upgraded emission controls again on July 1, 2004 to the Euro II standard[6]. More stringent emission standard, National Standard III, equivalent to Euro III standards, went into effect on July 1, 2007.[7] Plans are for Euro IV standards to take effect in 2010. Beijing introduced the Euro IV standard in advance on January 1, 2008, became the first city in mainland China to adopt this standard.[8] MPG The average fuel economy of family vehicles in China is already higher than in the United States, mainly because cars in China tend to be considerably smaller than those in the United States — and are getting even smaller because of recent tax changes. So what does that mean? Wed be seeing volvos that get 40mpg in the USA? IDK, it would be nice! regardless of the safety I would buy a 40mpg Volvo with a 3 star safety rating then a ford or bmw with a 4 or 5 star. and only 20mpg. 4. Im driving my 854 till she cant go no more. then getting a turbo. haha! I figure if a car can take 300k miles and still keep the mpg up in the 20s. its a good car. Either way, I cannot see myself purchasing a Volvo that was not built by the swedes unless it can rival the mechanical standards of my current Volvo. Let me know when they do that, then ill be a volvo china fan. or a volina fan. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlc Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Obviously negotiation been on the table for sometime now, but with Saab going, I think this is not a wise move now - all being equal, people actually look for alternative and being (the only) Swedish is a hell of a way to differentiate your car brand imo. That Ford have in fact bastardize the brand already since owning it is of course debatable. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaS60 Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Ok well does anyone know where the cars will be made? I mean Ford owned Volvo and was an American company but the parts and cars were all developed in Sweden by Swedish engineers right? So what's to say that this new Chinese company doesn't just leave a good thing alone and just pays the bills for it? I thought I heard somewhere that the company was only going to sell if they could continue to develop the cars in Sweden but that could just be a rumor and completely not true. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted December 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Ford and Volvo have been loosing their asses. Its nice to say things like that, but reality and theory are not the same. Heard from a few people who work fairly high up production level that it seems like the Chinese are either going to try and bust the unions or move productions. Not that I believe scuttlebutt but I would not want to be working for Volvo right now. In other news this could be great news for performance and aftermarket. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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