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Chrisssake, "Pegs v. Volans" can turn into a flame-fest on the interwebs. Trying to 'discuss' politics on the net is beyond ridiculous.

I have seen more intense arguements on online games.

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Either the government runs things and it's done hilariously inefficient, or you let the private sector handle things and they will a$$rape you and take you to the cleaners.

Rock <-> hard place.

Amen!!! Unlike some of the dumb ass comments I have read in the past on here "The rich man comes to the table and provides" bullshit, it's actually the middle class that determines the livelihood of a nation. If you do not have a strong middle class you will eventually have nothing!! Give me a example of a rich man who does not make his money by organizing or managing people, or sells a product for the masses. Money is no different then any other addiction people obsess over, with some of the latest trends here in the US being quit ridiculous. "Corporate America" will eventually bleed the US dry by trying to make a few extra bucks, but hey we are the country that embraces Individualism.

Way to get personal, your a dick. I'd have to fuck your sister to get infected, but I'm faithfully married to the same woman for 23 yrs. By the way, my family has one of those Cadillac plans, so my cost would be negligible. I pay my premiums, and earned my health care thru education hard work and perseverance. And I have never said Republicans and Bush were better at this.

Hows that taste, fuck nut? You continue to post shit in this vein that shows you to be uniformed. My e snatch may hurt, but I dont have to deal with you on a personal basis. That being said, you have a big Edik and would never speak to me like that in person.

Stick to the subject, and keep it on topic. Personal attacks make you look small.

But ultimately you are entitled to your opinions, and I respect that. But you seem to be angry about something. You should move out of your parents house.

I frequently get tired of these lame debates with weak sauce arguments, no facts, and personal attacks. You,( not just Spanky) keep refusing to look at history, here and around the world, to see what will happen.

We shall see the outcome in due time. The last thing I want to say is,"I told ya so".

I have applied for a leave of absence from the Political Forum, I'm trying to lower my blood pressure so you guys dont have to pay for my heart and hypertension disability. B)

"your a dick" I defiantly would agree with you there!! :lol: :lol: Then again I thought I was addressing a bunch of guys who work on there cars and not a 7th and 8th girls softball team. Your actually a nice guy with very shitty views of what this nation needs.

"I'd have to fuck your sister to get infected"= PM me and I will give you her number ;).

"That being said, you have a big Edik and would never speak to me like that in person. " Don't count on it old timer!! If we were having this conversation in person I would reply in the same manner and then probably kick you in your Evagina and make you pay for the hospital bill :lol: :lol:.

"You should move out of your parents house." Just waiting to get these hospital bills payed off and then I might rent the garage from them.

"Hows that taste, fuck nut?" I am guessing it would probably taste like Glenn Beck's nut sack since TV is your definition of being "educated". How about you turn the boobtube off for a couple of days and go out into the community and get the perspective of a few doctors and various people in the medical community. It seems that almost fifty percent of the responses in political section on this forum, is two armchair quarterbacks (You and Nazi Dave) who don't know a turd from a tater tot. Instead of riding the wave of a TV program, why don't you come up with your own opinions which exclude the "fear tactics" of from some other numbnuts personal interest.

I hate to break it to you but your already paying for the lower classes health care insurance if you realize it or not. With respect to income, the middle class has the most to worry about with the current structure.

"I frequently get tired of these lame debates with weak sauce arguments, no facts, and personal attacks. You,( not just Spanky) keep refusing to look at history, here and around the world, to see what will happen." Funny....Last time I checked I believe "greed" had something to do with the fall of the Roman Empire.

If you are tired of the lame debates and personal attacks you should not start these threads anymore....there are plenty of political forums out there where you can rant and rave. I know we've butted heads, nothings gotten personal, but do you really think VS is the place for this(a good percentage can't even use the spell check correctly here). Your time would be better served on a different site for these threads Sir. Let's talk cars bitches!!! :lol:

Amen!!

The good news is that we don't have to hear about short supply of swine flu vaccines anymore!! :lol: :lol:

I have seen more intense arguements on online games.

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Well, it worked! Your (GOP) representatives answered the call and voted as a bloc against health care reform. And, along the way, the "party of no" became the party of "hell no," with many Reps inciting violence amongst their Tea-Bagging base who suffer from the twin delusions that they are the majority, and that their country has been "stolen" from them. And you lost, anyway. Prediction: After these modest reforms prove popular, and should you continue to skip even further down the "full batshit wacko" road of Limbaugh/Beck, you'll have even fewer seats after November than you do now, especially if you run on "repealing" health care reform. Keep this stuff up and y'all really ARE going to have to secede (I hear Alaska's nice; Sarah says pack bug-spray!) because you've backed yourselves into a corner with your 'armageddon/fascist/takeover' rhetoric.

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Wow, I'm speechless. By the way the profit margin for insurance companies is about 3%.

You obviously know how old I am, and yet dont at least acknowledge my life experience and education, so be it. And you judge me when you know nothing about me, typical.

I have 2 kids, so I know all about Drs, and Med services. Trips to emergency rooms for broken bones, croop, all manner of illnesses You want a piece of my life to see where I come from? I spent 3 yrs shuttling my mom back and forth to hospitals for chemo and radiation treatments, rehab and physical therapy, and leaving my job to provide primary care for her in her last few months. My grandparents, God bless them lived to be 95, with dementia and fall injuries, so I made more than a couple of midnight trips to help them out and deal with their Drs also. No sympathy asked for, just the way life is, and thats the thing people deal with every day.

Sorry about your sister, hope she gets help for her condition.

I'm sure your a real big strapping young man, capable of kicking my asss. But I'm willing to bet I've smacked and been smacked by turds bigger and badder than you in my day. Basically I fear you not, and your intimidation is amateurish, if not juvenile. Old man is correct, but realize at 6ft and 220lbs, 15yrs of military, bouncing at bars, and various other nefarious incidents resulting in fisticuffs etc.over the last 32 yrs, not only can I take a punch, I'm on the plus side of the tally. I aint going down easy, little boy. Words dont scare me, I've had firearms in my face.

You keep threatening to make me pay for my medical bills and your sieve of a brain keeps forgetting what your read, or you chose to be selective in your reading, which is disingenuous at best. One more time, just for you: I have a Cadillac plan, and wont be paying much. :P

As an aside, you at least have a sense of humour.

Yup thats me all I do is watch Beck. He's on the air because he lies. If you took some of the stuff these guys talk about and didnt dismiss it off hand, you might see some truths in there. I dont need to explain where i get my info from, cuz of course you read 5 newspapers a day, have 5 tvs on 5 different news channels. and the internet tuned to Snopes all day. Believe me, I get my info from more than the telly. I've just filtered the shit you have swallowed, stacked my bet on my position, and what I know to be true.

Now on to the issue.

VAT is coming, thats a national sales tax, by the way. That will help pay for the new HC law. And to respond to Jan a bit more, he provided and intelligent entry into the debate, as apposed to Spankmee's hyperbole. Actually its more of an honest question.

Is it true the VAT in Scandinavia is 25%? What does it apply to? And what is the full Income tax rate? Is it proggressive?

If you are tired of the lame debates and personal attacks you should not start these threads anymore....there are plenty of political forums out there where you can rant and rave. I know we've butted heads, nothings gotten personal, but do you really think VS is the place for this(a good percentage can't even use the spell check correctly here). Your time would be better served on a different site for these threads Sir. Let's talk cars bitches!!! :lol:

Duly noted.

You can see the venom this issue creates.

I have seen more intense arguements on online games.

Arguments are not my aim. I started out with a reasonable post, I never attacked or asked for this content to get this stupid.

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Well, it worked! Your (GOP) representatives answered the call and voted as a bloc against health care reform. And, along the way, the "party of no" became the party of "hell no," with many Reps inciting violence amongst their Tea-Bagging base who suffer from the twin delusions that they are the majority, and that their country has been "stolen" from them. And you lost, anyway. Prediction: After these modest reforms prove popular, and should you continue to skip even further down the "full batshit wacko" road of Limbaugh/Beck, you'll have even fewer seats after November than you do now, especially if you run on "repealing" health care reform. Keep this shit up and y'all really ARE going to have to secede (I hear Alaska's nice; Sarah says pack bug-spray!) because you've backed yourselves into a corner with your 'armageddon/fascist/takeover' rhetoric.

An attempt to threaten the opposition? Did you know that the House Minority whip took a bullet in to his office?

Did you hear the voice mail directed at an Repub Ohio Congress woman?

Talk about hyperbole VTool, your on the edge of wacko. Weren't you the one screaming about forcing people to buy snow tires ?

A dissenting opinion immediately makes me a full bullshit wacko, huh? So much for lefty tolerance, open debate, freedom of speech. The arrogance that you think your opinion/ position is infallible flies in the face of reality. Massachusetts is failing in its efforts at this type of HC. GB is under water with this stuff. And I will continue to fall back on the FACT that the Govt has never run a program that didnt cost more than calculated. Or provide less benefits than promised. Or result in increased taxation and fees.

Just in case you werent watching FOX news last night, the SS security system is under water all ready, 6 yrs ahead of schedule, with trillion dollars owed to the trust fund. Forget about the $14 trill in medicare owed to states. So I guess this time it will be different. I hope so.

You young guys better get another job, I'm retiring in 12 yrs and will be looking for my $2k a month SS payment. I have a double wide to pay for.

Might as well close the thread, it is the law of the land now.

Hold onto your wallllets. :ph34r:

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Just in case you werent watching FOX news last night, the SS security system is under water all ready, 6 yrs ahead of schedule, with trillion dollars owed to the trust fund. Forget about the $14 trill in medicare owed to states. So I guess this time it will be different. I hope so.

Funny......I didn't see that when I was watching MSNBC! ;):lol: :lol:

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Steven Colbert is better than Stewart, I think. Marginally.

I just strapped the R to a trailer, its going for a newused M56H. I just sent the bills for the install into my HC provider.

Its my kids car and he's under 26, so it's covered right? I think it falls under stress related mental health issues. :lol:

Now I have 5 Volvos, I must be insane. It definitely messes with your health.

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to bad you don't leave CT. i'd have to blast your car with OBAMA '12 stickers. lol

I'm putting 'em on now as we speak, for camouflage. CT is very blue. WE are broke and they want to expand the budget to $19 billion. Can you say east coast California? It would be OK if we legalized pot, I could supplement my income with a nasty grow of some Chronic.

My fresh water fishing license went up to $40 from $20, plus now you need a salt water tag for an extra $10. It was $4 10 yrs ago. Plus they raised the fees for state park entry to ridiculous levels. Folks are just parking on access roads and walking in.

The law of diminishing returns is in full effect now. They dont have enough DEP agents to enforce existing laws and regs. I predict poaching goes thru the roof. And projected revenues will go way down. The real bitch is the money collected does not go into habitat or fisheries improvement, but into the general slush fund to pay more unfunded mandates and benies to state unions. Democrat super majority hard at work.

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