EricF Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 Sorry for a feeler thread, lame I know Been thinking about selling the car, or selling the blue car. There are a couple of possibilities: 1. Sell the 850 running with Motronic, so it's serviceable for the new buyer. 2. Sell it with VEMS, so the new buyer could have a fully programmable aftermarket EMS capable of making a shitload of power. Either way it will have the manual transmission, the big turbo, all the parts, everything else. The way I see it, option 1 is preferable to the guy who knows a bit about these cars but doesn't know enough to troubleshoot an aftermarket system and doesn't have a mechanic willing to work outside the box. Option 2 is for the guy who *really* knows what he is getting and wants to take the car to the next level. Really all the car needs is a little rebuild with some H-beam rods, then some turns of the boost controller and fuel pressure regulator, plus some dyno tuning to be in the 400 whp range. As it is, it's probably in the 280-300 whp range, with a very linear powerband from 3500-6200. It's not a perfect 850, it was made 15 years ago and spent a large portion of its life up north. It has some very small rust spots under the paint in a couple of places (hood, rear passenger door). Paint is actually pretty nice. Front tires will need to be replaced (again) before too long. They don't last too long with higher powered 850 setups A/C has an evap leak but otherwise should be good to go. Worked for awhile after buying it, but now doesn't hold a charge more than a day. Interior is in OK shape, reflects the age of the car but isn't too bad when I bother to clean it. It is a fast 850, and runs really fucking well. Before I did the manual swap, it was my daily driver and got about 20k miles. Since the manual swap, it's also been my daily driver and been driven about 10k miles. Did I mention it's fast? Anyway, it's not entirely spectacular to everyone, but to the right person it is. I'd be looking to get $4700 for it either option 1 or 2. This would be a good deal. To make this an $8k car, you could easily swap everything over to a cleaner/fresher chassis. For people liking laundry lists of 'mods' ... - 1995 850 turbo, white with tan interior, tan R seats in front, odo at 141k miles, actual more likely 160-165k - Stock longblock. stock cams. - Stock intake manifold - Stock intercooler - Ported and extrude-honed exhaust manifold - Turbonetics ceramic ball bearing T3/T04E turbocharger. Stage 3 T3 turbine wheel in 0.63AR housing, 54 trim T04E compressor wheel in 0.50 AR housing. - ATP ultimate internal wastegate with 8 psi Ford actuator - 3" mandrel bent stainless downpipe with flexpipe, v-band connection to wastegate housing, 3-bolt flange connection to 3" race cat. - 2.5" BSR mandrel-bent stainless exhaust with two mufflers - Sard R2D2 blowoff valve - Volvo 'white' injectors (350cc/min) - Aeromotive adjustable FPR, base pressure of 54 psi, bringing injector flowrate to 'around' 400cc/min - VEMS aftermarket standalone engine management. Wideband A/F input, knock sensor input, sequential fuel injection, sequential coil on plug ignition http://www.vems.hu .. has LCD display screen to go along with it. - M56H transmission with speed sensor - New R clutch kit and throwout bearing - Autometer ultralite boost/vac gauge - Autometer ultralite oil pressure gauge - Autometer ultralite wideband air/fuel gauge - Autometer ultralite fuel pressure gauge - 17" Volans with a full size spare (Titan) - KW V2 coilovers, rear shocks are blown and in a box, currently on the car in the back are Bilstein HD's - IPD sway bars, rear bar may be cracked - 302mm brake upgrade, SS brake lines It's not a new car, but very fast and capable, and everything works together rather well. --------------------------------------------- Now the blue car. This car is very different, but similar in many ways. I've been dailying it for the last week... After letting it sit for some time. It's a 1984 240 turbo 4-door. Came from the factory with K-jetronic mechanical fuel injection, a B21FT with 160 casting head, T cam, intercooled stock. It has the blue velour interior.. Original exterior color was silver, has been painted matte blue. - Stock B21FT bottom end, refreshed with new oil pump and seals and such. - 405 casting 8-valve head, better flowing casting never equipped on US-market cars, rather extensive port work done - Enem (Swedish camshaft company) V15 camshaft, similar in specs to IPD turbo cam - 1990+ turbo manifold, extensively ported - Angle-outlet TD04HL-19T - Stock B23/230 intake manifold - Volvo S60R 'green' injectors (440cc/min) - Megasquirt EMS, MS1 PCB version 2.2.. Fuel-only. Batch-fire injection. - Stock B21FT mechanical distributor and ignition system. Stock base ignition timing 10-12 deg at idle, have been running at 24-25 degrees at idle for 2+ years - Wastegate flapper wired shut. Boost levels 23-24 psi fading to 19-20 psi by redline. - Stock iron casing M46 transmission, stock pressure plate and clutch with ~20k miles. Never slips. - 4.10:1 final drive ratio, open differential. - Bilstein HD shocks all around, cut EST lowering springs all around, stock turbo swaybars with poly bushings, poly bushings in front end - 3" mandrel-bent downpipe, 3" crush-bent exhaust with no cat - Momo 1000 lakes EVO carbon/kevlar driver's seat. Red, fabric color faded a bit but shell and padding in good condition. Narrow, very supporting seat with Kaplhenke seat brackets. - Corbeau GT passenger seat (wider, tubular steel frame seat with custom brackets, black cloth and pleather). - 16x7 BBS wheels all around, 25mm spacers in the rear to improve stance. Have 205/55/16 tires currently, getting new 195/55/16 tires soon for a little more fender clearance. - Just installed power steering, going to install a nice blue/black leather 3-spoke race steering wheel and Momo hub adapter This car has proven very reliable since I've owned it, I've spent a lot of time using it as a daily over the years. Taken it to the SE meet in Alabama once, taken it all over Florida multiple times. Has no A/C, blower motor doesn't work, but it's not that kind of car. It's a car to bomb around town in on the weekends. The 19T makes the car severely responsive, car has pretty damn good traction, and the transmission is in outstanding condition. Shifts way better than any cable-driven crap M56. Most fun to drive car I may have ever been behind the wheel of. Super rumbly idle due to the ignition advance, more aggressive cam, and batch fire injection. Car comes with most things you'd need for a T5 transmission swap. Including recently rebuilt V8 T5 trans that developed a slight gear whine, appears to just be the input shaft bearing (new input shaft bearings and retainer are only 30-50 bucks). Includes a modified M46 bellhousing to accept the T5 shift fork, adapter plate for the transmission, nice aftermarket T5 shifter, 2-piece driveshaft out of a 740, modified 740 transmission crossmember. Also have a like-new 4-puck sprung hub clutch that fits the B21FT flywheel and pressure plate, and T5 input shaft. I also have a set of insanely good condition 15" Virgos (240 turbo wheels) painted dark metallic with old style Falken Azenis sports tires. Two are in good shape and two are not... Looking to get $4300 for the blue car and all its stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshbread Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 That's a pretty smoking deal on the white car imo...should go fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogatu'r Posted July 1, 2010 Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 If only I hadn't exported some cars last year, both of these would be mine. Eric, great cars. I couldn't even pick one or the other, I want and like both . GLWS Bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricF Posted July 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2010 BTW guys this is still really a feeler... I'm going to be scoring a sweet family-mobile SUV soon that can also haul the old boat around, and am not going to keep insurance on three cars for myself plus one for my wife... That would be ludicrous. So I'll likely be dropping one vehicle, and I'm not totally sure which one at this point. I guess if someone put $8k in my hand I'd probably watch both of them go :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricF Posted July 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Alright just drove a Durango home, one car or the other has to go. Which would you guys prefer I clean up and present to impress? BTW if anyone would like to take both cars, there are very aggressive price incentives to do so... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolvoRine Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Would you mind if I go one of these days and visit your cars in person... would love to see them Eric :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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