s70turbo1998 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 It's like Captain Hindsight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY_oKve-bH0) has an entourage. Who gives a shit. The past has happened, let's stop picking sides about who was wrong and work with what we have. If people spent as much time bitching about the tanking economy and rampant government as they did about terrorists' feelings, we might actually be making some progress on something tangible. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCapn Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volvotool Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 (edited) The past has happened, let's stop picking sides about who was wrong and work with what we have. Translation: A Republican President broke the law. I vote Republican, so monkey it. I'm sure Boehner will use the subpoena power of his House to investigate Chief Executive crimes, though, as long as they involve a Democratic Chief Executive and his dick. Wow. "Who gives a stuff" and "meh" used in back to back posts to explain how the poster feels about torture being our new normal. How monkeyed up are we? Edited November 10, 2010 by volvotool 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Your not an american citizen you dont get american citizen rights. Not sure whats hard to understand there ? If we could we should be waterboarding every illegal that enters this country :lol: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s70turbo1998 Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 How is torture normal? Torture is so minimal an occurrence relative to problems that occur here in the U.S. every day. Arguing about the merits of torture is an empty argument used for the sake of bolstering one's humanitarian self concept. What exactly will you do about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM850R Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Translation: A Republican President broke the law. I vote Republican, so fuck it. I'm sure Boehner will use the subpoena power of his House to investigate Chief Executive crimes, though, as long as they involve a Democratic Chief Executive and his dick. Wow. "Who gives a shit" and "meh" used in back to back posts to explain how the poster feels about torture being our new normal. How fucked up are we? So back to your analogy about the FBI gunning down your family while pursuing a terrorist. You would find it completely acceptable that the FBI had a person in captivity that could stop a terrorist act before it happened, but they dont get any information from him because they were too soft. Thousands die instead of one person being hurt (not killed). Although I may not agree with torture to get information since there are other forms of interrogation but I cant speak for the people that made those decisions nor can I begin to imagine the desperate situation they were in. If you are innocent and the FBI does these things to you, what on earth lead them to believe that you were not innocent? There are damn good reasons why they take people in. Look what happens when your country is soft. France is a great example of what happens. Your not an american citizen you dont get american citizen rights. Not sure whats hard to understand there ? If we could we should be waterboarding every illegal that enters this country I agree to an extent. As long as we conform to the conventions passed down from past conflicts. Gotta try to play by the rules at least so that we dont alienate every allied country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volvotool Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 You would find it completely acceptable that the FBI had a person in captivity that could stop a terrorist act before it happened, but they dont get any information from him because they were too soft. Thousands die instead of one person being hurt (not killed). This is a great example of how TV has monkeyed up any chance for reasonable dialog on this subject: This is much more likely to be just a recap from an episode of "24" and not an actual incident. Gotta try to play by the rules at least so that we dont alienate every allied country. Too late for that. Does anyone on this board ever travel abroad, know any foreigners, and bother to listen to what they have to say? It is over. We have flushed our values down the drain pursuing a 'war' that scarcely deserves the name, and we no longer have the respect of the rest of the world. We put people on airplanes and take them to shithole countries to be tortured. I guess that doesn't matter to most Americans, but the rest of the world has noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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