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I hope prices of fuel go to 10 dollars per gallon:

And tax reform laws that were proposed in 2007 will tank the economy and lead to wide spread lay offs.

You are THE King of Havoc.

Chinese have singed exclusive oil deals with the likes of Venezuela, Nigeria etc. Locke din low price, while we have to go to the market and get it. Obamites says Canadian oil is dirty. I call treason ON the EPA and the environazis for putting us in a National Security pickle. The Armed Forces runs on Diesel and refined fuels. SO does your food harvesting and delivery equipment.

$3.44 for 87 yesterday. And the Gov wants to jack gas tax. Love CT....not really.

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Russia and China have a pipeline deal. I bet they will sell us oil at a reasonable price...cuz they are our friends.

Obama issued one drill permit for the gulf...314 days after BP deal.

He said gas would necessarily have to be $5 a gallon. I heard it with my own 2 eyes.

More wind mill parts for my gas tank please.

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There is nothing you can do about this so just save your breath...what are you going to do, not buy gasoline..?

It does suck that the stuff is almost $4 a gallon for 93 where I am at..

yeah, you buy diesel...

That's kinda why I bought a POS TDI...

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If the trouble in Libya doesn't resolve itself soon and oil prices keep spiraling upward expect to see gas prices moving up. Saudi Arabia will work to manage the oil prices but speculators will still have fun with the chaos.

Pretty much. Anytime theres a chance that supply will be interrupted, they start buying, betting that whatever might happen will happen.

About to go fill up... and not looking forward to pain at the pump. I remember when people used to rage over 3 dollars a gallon. They are raising it slowly and making everyone used to it.

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They've factored it into their monthly budget, so it really isnt a shock to them anymore. I can remember when I first started driving back in 06, talking with my friends how I paid $45 bucks for a tank of gas! Now thats common.

Why President Comacho? :lol:

And tax reform laws that were proposed in 2007 will tank the economy and lead to wide spread lay offs.

Ill have to send this to one of my friends who's a big time Socialist. See what his thoughts are.

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Not surprising how fickle the average American household budget is, and how income dependent we are on low petrol prices. Super high individual transportation prices fueled by hydrocarbons would hopefully promote cheap urban mass transportation.

I'd love to get on a train a mile or two from my house, park my bike, and be to work in 20 minutes.

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Super high individual transportation prices fueled by hydrocarbons would hopefully promote cheap urban mass transportation.

The initial infrastructure investment would be huge. I think the DART system Dallas put in was around a $1 billion...although at the same time the pricetag for one of the interchanges up here in Milwaukee is going to be around $1.75 billion easily (although labor rates are a bit different)

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The initial infrastructure investment would be huge.

Difference being though the money for a good part stays within the country as opposed to sending it abroad for oil.

The problem with public transport is not necessarily the cost but how effective/efficiently it can be designed and run. If its slow, unreliable and expensive you're not going to convince many people to get on it for example. If you do get it working properly (not the likeliest of scenarios) there are all kinds of advantages, traffic jams for one thing cost handfuls of money as well with time and gas being wasted.

Oh and your fuel prices are still not high. Less cheap than you're used to, perhaps.

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The problem with public transport is not necessarily the cost but how effective/efficiently it can be designed and run. If its slow, unreliable and expensive you're not going to convince many people to get on it for example.

If you do get it working properly (not the likeliest of scenarios) there are all kinds of advantages, traffic jams for one thing cost handfuls of money as well with time and gas being wasted.

Oh and your fuel prices are still not high. Less cheap than you're used to, perhaps.

This past winter the new governor of Wisconsin vetoed a 'high-speed' rail line between Madison, WI and Milwaukee, WI. It would of been paid for by the federal government but he still didnt want it. It was questionable as to whether the investment was worth it and the state would have to pay for maintenance costs. Theres not enough traffic between the two cities, not enough to warrant a $800 million dollar rail line where the 'high speed' train would only get up to its max speed for a brief moment(110mph). The overall time & cost for traveling by road vs the new train would be equal if not more expensive and a little more time(various stops along the way.) A better option would have been to start between Milwaukee, WI & Chicago, IL, which has a lot more traffic along that stretch of highway and people actually use the existing train line. If they had proposed that, I believe the project would have had more support.

Thats something that we learn in the classes im taking, for designing a new roadway you look at congestion your trying to eliminate and if people can get to a from work/where their going, they can be more productive/spend time at home after work. Its one of the points you try to make to explain why the money should be spent. And it also helps improve the longevity of the roadway if you have cars constantly moving over it instead of just sitting on it creeping along.

My family and I were in Italy the summer of 2006 and I cant remember what the price of gas was but it was enough to make me scratch my head for a bit, maybe $2 a liter or something? And that's probably why mass transit works better over in Europe due to high gas costs, its cheaper to get on a train.

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