PyROTech Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 (edited) Part 1: http://www.torontosu...4/17501001.html i cut bits a pieces of the article, just so people know... i am a big supporter of protecting property and person.. so i am bias "OTTAWA - Should people defending their own homes or lives be able to use force to protect themselves or their property?That question is central to a debate in Ottawa right now as politicians debate Bill C-60, the Citizen's Arrest and Self-Defence Act. "Law-abiding Canadians should not be the target of the criminal justice system," Prime Minister Stephen Harper said when he announced the bill in mid-February." "The act expands the ability of storeowners to conduct citizen's arrests and was prompted by the case of Toronto grocer David Chen. Chen was charged with kidnapping for arresting a career criminal attempting to rob him for the second time in a single day." "Earlier this week Ian Thomson, a man from Port Colborne, Ont., was in court to face charges for firing over the heads of attackers who threw firebombs at his house. Two charges were dropped. Thomson still faces charges for careless storage of a firearm." edited part: messed up title, cant we change the title with coming out of the closet? Part 2: http://news.national...f-defence-laws/ "On a rainy day in May 2010, Joe and Marilyn Singleton returned from dinner to their rural acreage near Taber, Alta. The couple usually left the lights off to save energy. But on this night, the lights were on and a dilapidated station wagon was in the driveway. Mr. Singleton parked behind it and headed through the garage, grabbing a small hatchet used to chop kindling on his way in. Inside, the house had been trashed — furniture knocked over, dishes smashed, pictures torn off the wall; jewellery, cash and video games were missing. Mr. Singleton left his wife to call 911 and headed out into the driveway, where a burglar was trying to flee in the station wagon. “I told him to sit there, the police are coming, we’ll sort it out,” he recalled in his first public interview. “That’s when he put his car in reverse and smashed into our car. “Then he put the car into drive and it was then I thought, my God he’s going to smash into the garage door to get away and my wife was right on the other side.” He reached into the open driver’s side window and hit the man twice in the face with the blunt end of the hatchet. The thief ran and got tangled up in a barbed-wire fence. When the RCMP arrived 20 minutes later, they intercepted two more thieves who had gone to get a pickup truck because their car was too small to carry away all the stolen loot. If this was Hollywood, this is where Mr. Singleton’s story likely would have ended. But in a tale that has become a familiar real-life refrain, the injured thief, a 19-year-old repeat offender who was out on bail after threatening another homeowner with a crowbar, received house arrest for the burglary. Mr. Singleton, whose only run-in with the law was a speeding ticket six years earlier, was charged with assault with a weapon and assault causing bodily harm, offences that carry up to 10 years in prison." ---------------------------------- me: you can read the rest of the article, including why he was charged and what changes have been suggested. Edited October 30, 2011 by PyROTech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 yeah, you would never have that issue in the US. Store owner taking down a guy robbing him would never be a problem. Now, if he locked him up in the basement for a few weeks, then yeah, that is a problem. "We don't want to become a far West," said Bloc Quebecois house leader Pierre Paquette. Translation, "Texas Justice". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 They should visit Texas. 7/11 store owners play a game with the locals down there. It's kinda like skeet shooting. Here's how to play; The local hoodlum instructs the store owner to turn over whatever they desire, money, pack of cigarettes, maybe both. This is only good for a laugh unless you do it while holding a weapon, or pretending to hold one. As soon as you are given what you want, you leave the store as quickly as possible. Only now can the store owner grab their weapon of choice, often a large pistol or shotgun, and chase after the local while firing. Sometimes the store owner cheats, and will begin shooting before surrendering the items. This is the source of the phrase "jump the gun". Sometimes, for dramatic affect, you dive over the counter while firing wildly. This can startle the hoodlum and increase your chances. The person who is in possession of the goods wins "OTTAWA - Should people defending their own homes or lives be able to use force to protect themselves or their property?That question is central to a debate in Ottawa right now as politicians debate Bill C-60, the Citizen's Arrest and Self-Defence Act. I say we break in to the house of whoever opposes that bill and try to change their mind. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted March 10, 2011 Report Share Posted March 10, 2011 "We don't want to become a far West," said Bloc Quebecois house leader Pierre Paquette. Translation, "Texas Justice". Who knows, they may more likely be talking aboot the Northwest Territories. The rates of gun ownership climb as you move further west and north through the Canadian territories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EVL WAGN Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 lol....Ray is awesome!!! Worth the trip to Rodney for sure! Funny thing is...that isn't too far away from me. I should drop in and say to Ray in person...maybe snag his autograph...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROTech Posted September 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2011 http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/09/15/matt-gurney-on-an-ontario-courts-strong-endorsement-of-the-right-to-self-defence/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 LOL. I dont even believe in half the pro A2 crap but its still funny. Either way someone breaks into my house all there gonna hear is....... Ask the last guy.... oh wait. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROTech Posted October 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 http://news.national...f-defence-laws/ "On a rainy day in May 2010, Joe and Marilyn Singleton returned from dinner to their rural acreage near Taber, Alta. The couple usually left the lights off to save energy. But on this night, the lights were on and a dilapidated station wagon was in the driveway. Mr. Singleton parked behind it and headed through the garage, grabbing a small hatchet used to chop kindling on his way in. Inside, the house had been trashed — furniture knocked over, dishes smashed, pictures torn off the wall; jewellery, cash and video games were missing. Mr. Singleton left his wife to call 911 and headed out into the driveway, where a burglar was trying to flee in the station wagon. “I told him to sit there, the police are coming, we’ll sort it out,” he recalled in his first public interview. “That’s when he put his car in reverse and smashed into our car. “Then he put the car into drive and it was then I thought, my God he’s going to smash into the garage door to get away and my wife was right on the other side.” He reached into the open driver’s side window and hit the man twice in the face with the blunt end of the hatchet. The thief ran and got tangled up in a barbed-wire fence. When the RCMP arrived 20 minutes later, they intercepted two more thieves who had gone to get a pickup truck because their car was too small to carry away all the stolen loot. If this was Hollywood, this is where Mr. Singleton’s story likely would have ended. But in a tale that has become a familiar real-life refrain, the injured thief, a 19-year-old repeat offender who was out on bail after threatening another homeowner with a crowbar, received house arrest for the burglary. Mr. Singleton, whose only run-in with the law was a speeding ticket six years earlier, was charged with assault with a weapon and assault causing bodily harm, offences that carry up to 10 years in prison." ---------------------------------- me: you can read the rest of the article, including why he was charged and what changes have been suggested. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Canada sucks, you do not have to keep trying to convince us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Canada just wants to be important! Hahahaha Besides, little Asians that drive green wagons live up there anyways 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROTech Posted November 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 Canada sucks, you do not have to keep trying to convince us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted November 6, 2011 Report Share Posted November 6, 2011 In florida we would have just shot them and they would have remained suspicous people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyROTech Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 http://news.national...ells-gun-trial/ the battle continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 ban all guns on earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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