Dana Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Than you were four years ago?http://numeralist.blogspot.com/2005/01/by-numbers-u.htmlJanuary 20, 2005By the Numbers: The U.S. After 4 Years of BushPoverty Rate2000: 11.3% or 31.6 million Americans2003: 12.5% or 35.9 million AmericansStock marketDow Jones Industrial Average1/19/01: 10,587.591/19/05: 10,539.97NASDAQ1/19/01: 2,770.381/19/05: 2,073.59S&P 5001/19/01: 1,342.541/19/05: 1,184.63Value of the Dollar1/19/01: 1 Dollar = 1.06 Euros 1/19/05: 1 Dollar = 0.77 EurosBudget2000 budget surplus $236.4 billion2004 budget deficit $412.6 billionThat's a shift of $649 billion and doesn't include the cost of the Iraq war.Cost of the war in Iraq$150.8 billionAmerican Casualties in IraqDeaths: 1,369Wounded: 10,252The DebtEnd of 2000: $5.7 trillionToday: $7.6 trillionThat's a 4 year increase of 33%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdizzle Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 4 years ago I could barely afford to eat, now have a super nice home with a great income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StickThatClutch Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Weak dollar is good for business. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 I am alot better off. I think this is more a case of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, not we all got poorer. Plus this is volvospeed, not kiaspeed Did he just say that? Yes he did Mudbone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 *counts money*Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbobrick Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 hmm..the government is paying for more of my college now, so yes... yes i am better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricF Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 See, this is just normative bullshit, like everything else related to politics on messageboards Isolate all other variables first, then give numbers. Though a meaningful empirical analysis of Bush's success as a president is pretty much impossible due to the World Trade Center attacks of September 11. Not much wasn't profoundly affected by that.I'm not a nut-hugger of the president, but those numbers mean absolutely nothing. If you guys would like Political Research 101 one day, just ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 The economy was f*ed before 9/11, it contributed but it was still going to do what it was going to do.It's not G.W.s fault, it's the all of the administrations from the past 24 years' faults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricF Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 (edited) The economy was f*ed before 9/11, it contributed but it was still going to do what it was going to do.It's not G.W.s fault, it's the all of the administrations from the past 24 years' faults.←Another unbound variable Figure in a steady decline in the state of the economy, the fact that it's typically very cyclical in nature, maybe find similar events to the WTC attacks that have happened in other highly developed countries, and probably a handful of other significant variables. Decide what sort of decline they would precipitate en lieu of Mr. Bush, and there is your control. Compare to the actual numbers, and see if it's better or worse.It's imprecise, and physical scientists usually are quick to question its accuracy, but it's a strong stride away from normative meaningless research.If you want feel-good random statistics that support your view, it's very easy to find them. It is difficult however, to find relatively sound research that supports your views (not any views in particular), and even more difficult to conduct your own research. Edited January 21, 2005 by EricF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InlineTurbo Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Yes, I'm doing much better than 4 years ago. It is called progressing. It tends to happen from time to time no matter who is in the Whitehouse.4 years ago I didn't own a house or a Porsche and now I have both. Is it because of Bill Clinton, G.W. Bush or Richard Nixon? Nope. It is called hard work and dedication to do well. That is what this country is founded on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickster151 Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Yes, I'm doing much better than 4 years ago. It is called progressing. It tends to happen from time to time no matter who is in the Whitehouse.4 years ago I didn't own a house or a Porsche and now I have both. Is it because of Bill Clinton, G.W. Bush or Richard Nixon? Nope. It is called hard work and dedication to do well. That is what this country is founded on.←Quoted for truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Quoted for truth.←Tell that to Scott Peterson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibim Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 I'm all in favour of a weak dollar. Makes buying volvo parts cheaper for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thevolvoguy Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 Yes I am better off, as are my parents and most, if not all of my friends and family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theunderlord Posted January 21, 2005 Report Share Posted January 21, 2005 yup.. far better off... don't have to give it a second thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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