7 VII 7 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Dude ... do you see the crap they do ? I am not political at all but serious Romney is a freaking death threat to the US Economy . The guy runs all his companies like the mafia does . Also the simple fact of the bible should have no influnce on how you run a country either , that is to me the most scaryiest thing that a Kids story book runs the lifes of this idiots . Justin, can you please site your mention of "mafia companies"? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Justin, can you please site your mention of "mafia companies"? He did earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Justin, can you please site your mention of "mafia companies"? Watch the crapy TV commericals , its nothing different the mafia does. Grab a buisness , sell everything off thats worth anything , bury all your debt from someplace else on it then file backrupcty and screw everyone else that anhything to do with it . I need to get in the buisenss I could be a millionaire ...hmmmm ideas . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7 VII 7 Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 He did earlier. I could not find it. Justin can you post again? Watch the crapy TV commericals , its nothing different the mafia does. Grab a buisness , sell everything off thats worth anything , bury all your debt from someplace else on it then file backrupcty and screw everyone else that anhything to do with it . I need to get in the buisenss I could be a millionaire ...hmmmm ideas . Yes, the TV does not lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Also the simple fact of the bible should have no influnce on how you run a country either , that is to me the most scaryiest thing that a Kids story book runs the lifes of this idiots . Justin, I know you have issues with religion but that is one of the dumbest statements you've made. Most of the laws in this land are based on a morality that was informed by a Judeo-Christian ethic. Morality of any form has a basis that most religions instruct for being a decent human being and well mannered citizen. So whether it's the Bible, the Q'uran, the Sutras, the Torah, the Book of Mormon, the Atheist's Handbook or any other book of belief systems, I hope whomever leads the country has some decent basis for their moral standard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Justin, I know you have issues with religion but that is one of the dumbest statements you've made. Most of the laws in this land are based on a morality that was informed by a Judeo-Christian ethic. Morality of any form has a basis that most religions instruct for being a decent human being and well mannered citizen. So whether it's the Bible, the Q'uran, the Sutras, the Torah, the Book of Mormon, the Atheist's Handbook or any other book of belief systems, I hope whomever leads the country has some decent basis for their moral standard. I agree I am very biased agasint it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Watch the crapy TV commericals , its nothing different the mafia does. Grab a buisness , sell everything off thats worth anything , bury all your debt from someplace else on it then file backrupcty and screw everyone else that anhything to do with it . I need to get in the buisenss I could be a millionaire ...hmmmm ideas . Name the companies he did this to as well as the successful companies that were turned around thanks to Bain's efforts and we can examine the costs vs the benefits. I think under careful examination it will be found that in general this was not how Bain operated. You're thinking of Michael Milliken and firms like KKR who did a series of leveraged buyouts in the 80s. Some businesses may have been shut down and some people may have lost their jobs, but how did the overall company (conglomerates often that were broken up) fare and survive where Bain was involved and Romney was actually in charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I could not find it. Justin can you post again? Yes, the TV does not lie http://www.rollingst...apital-20120829 The guy is scum all around , and dont worry rape babies abort themselves Instead of building new companies from the ground up, we took out massive bank loans and used them to acquire existing firms, liquidating every asset in sight and leaving the target companies holding the note. Cuttyshark boyies ! - Goodfellas - I thought I was being original with this idea LOL ..... I am not damn :( 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Name the companies he did this to as well as the successful companies that were turned around thanks to Bain's efforts and we can examine the costs vs the benefits. I think under careful examination it will be found that in general this was not how Bain operated. You're thinking of Michael Milliken and firms like KKR who did a series of leveraged buyouts in the 80s. Some businesses may have been shut down and some people may have lost their jobs, but how did the overall company (conglomerates often that were broken up) fare and survive where Bain was involved and Romney was actually in charge? No clue I just see the one commerical over and over , and along with a few other things I rather stick with who we have . Stock market has doubled while he as been in office. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappo Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 So whether it's the Bible, the Q'uran, the Sutras, the Torah, the Book of Mormon, the Atheist's Handbook or any other book of belief systems, I hope whomever leads the country has some decent basis for their moral standard. You don't need to have religion to have morals. In fact, I tend not to trust any politician who talks about their faith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Justin, I know you have issues with religion but that is one of the dumbest statements you've made. Most of the laws in this land are based on a morality that was informed by a Judeo-Christian ethic. Morality of any form has a basis that most religions instruct for being a decent human being and well mannered citizen. So whether it's the Bible, the Q'uran, the Sutras, the Torah, the Book of Mormon, the Atheist's Handbook or any other book of belief systems, I hope whomever leads the country has some decent basis for their moral standard. While Justin is long famous for his off-the-cuff comments, I really do believe he meant that laws should not be created on the sole basis of " because the bible said so". But just to throw napalm on the fire, I support his original off the cuff statement. I'm aware of the history, and I'm saying maybe it's time to shift a little (more) away from it. Social moral demands can certainly (and will certainly) be shaped by biblical demands, but a religious book's statement's has zero place in the law books. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilled man Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 You don't need to have religion to have morals. In fact, I tend not to trust any politician who talks about their faith. Or pushes there faiths morals on the general public . What yout think is not the same as what I think is ok . Especilaly since this country was built and based uppon religious freedom Only in the 50s did we due stupid stuff like " in god we trust " on our money and such . Your relgion and polotics should not have anthing in common . If you disgree lets ellect some idiodic Amish and drive wagons every where . - fck the amish - sweet jebus wheres the spell check around here ? I cant read half the crap I type . While Justin is long famous for his off-the-cuff comments, I really do believe he meant that laws should not be created on the sole basis of " because the bible said so". But just to throw napalm on the fire, I support his original off the cuff statement. I'm aware of the history, and I'm saying maybe it's time to shift a little (more) away from it. Social moral demands can certainly (and will certainly) be shaped by biblical demands, but a religious book's statement's has zero place in the law books. 100% agreed ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'm sorry but these statements rack up as essentially saying: "Don't legislate morality." Which is utter bullshit because laws = morality. The principles taught by any of the major religions when it comes to moral behavior are what is needed to help build proper citizens. Note I never said it was the ONLY solution, in fact I threw in atheism to comfort those who would declare that religion is unnecessary. Whether you're religious or not I don't really care. But if you're going to ask to govern then we should care about the moral compass of the individual. That's what I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikS Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Note I never said it was the ONLY solution, in fact I threw in atheism to comfort those who would declare that religion is unnecessary. Whether you're religious or not I don't really care. But if you're going to ask to govern then we should care about the moral compass of the individual. Interesting. Some of the most stable, safest nations in the world are the least religious. The most unstable, and dangerous places tend to be the most religious. Morality inside a country is not an absolute ideal across the world it seems, especially when religion and law are intertwined. I would want the POTUS to not be religious at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 Make sure you cite the findings of Guns, Steel, and Germs and similar studies before you come to the conclusion that the safest most stable nations in the world are the least religious. They've become irreligious simply because their modernity facilitated by so much more than their beliefs (like their geography and natural resources) gave them the wealth necessary to distance themselves from the demands of faith. Whether or not that is a good thing depends on how you view the benefits of having a moderate religious hand as an input into the lives of the next generation. The most stable country in West Africa is also one of the most religious. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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