550 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 But what gaurantees they are unbiased at that point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 the large print is to show quotes. the example was to show that the swiss are gun nuts and you are still having ridiculous murders out windows. the example is to show that gun deaths are a global problem. i'm not desperate in the least. i'm trying to help educate those that might not be posting and aren't sure that having a gun makes you a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 But what gaurantees they are unbiased at that point? That seems purposely obtuse. Dead people killed by firearms are not bias or unbias. the large print is to show quotes. the example was to show that the swiss are gun nuts and you are still having ridiculous murders out windows. the example is to show that gun deaths are a global problem. i'm not desperate in the least. i'm trying to help educate those that might not be posting and aren't sure that having a gun makes you a man. These numbers are not a global problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikS Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 At close to 90 guns per 100 people, you would think Ameirca would have gun fights everyday on most streets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 At close to 90 guns per 100 people, you would think Ameirca would have gun fights everyday on most streets. Older numbers. We have more firearms than people now. That said I think its something like one in five people owns a firearm. So still the minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 the %'s might be skewed, you have guys here with safe's full, and than people with none. just look at CHI and Phill, LA and see how out of control it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 the %'s might be skewed, you have guys here with safe's full, and than people with none. just look at CHI and Phill, LA and see how out of control it is. You named the cities with the toughest gun laws in the country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 right, they need stricter, like i said before. caught with an illegal gun 10years auto. caught with an illegal loaded gun. 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 A lot if not most states already have those laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 That seems purposely obtuse. Dead people killed by firearms are not bias or unbias. These numbers are not a global problem. No, I agree. But how it's reported *is* biased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 I have a question to propose. I did a bit of research on the topic and couldn't find anything. Can anyone find a historical example (anytime in the history of the world) where weapons regulation decreased the number of violent crimes? I can find a massive amount of evidence to the contrary but not one example of a reduction. Not surprising I guess, considering that firearm regulation is not about reducing the number of crimes it's about agenda. Australia started it's anti-gun legislation campaign in 1996. Cost was ~$1,000 per firearm which was turned in (mandatory turn in). Even the nicest stats show only a 3.2% reduction in gun related crime. While home invasions, assaults, and sexual assaults have seen a minimum increase of 20%. In 2002 the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged that there was zero reduction in gun related violent crime after the ban. 2006 in Australia saw the highest murder rate in their history. This can be paired with dozens of independant studies (many done in the UK which has similar laws) which show the same things. right, they need stricter, like i said before. caught with an illegal gun 10years auto. caught with an illegal loaded gun. 15 years. Strictor? The cities/states with the strictest laws have seen the highest rates. Criminals don't follow laws. The kid that shot up that school broke over 40 laws. You think that dding a few more to list he was willing to break would help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Exactly, criminals don't follow laws. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 gun crimes are down right now. just more pub The kid that shot up that school broke over 40 laws. You think that dding a few more to list he was willing to break would help? so we should continue to make it easy for these hooligans to get guns? keep stamping/machining them out is the path? are you a NRA plant here? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 gun crimes are down right now. just more pub so we should continue to make it easy for these hooligans to get guns? keep stamping/machining them out is the path? are you a NRA plant here? lol Firearm related crimes are down and weapon proliferation is up. Not sure what your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 I hope they pass it. That would be awesome. Well for every person not living in IL at least. Here's the thing, they've already proven that the laws don't work in the absence of a total national ban. Think about it, of the 506 homicides that occurred in the city of Chicago last year, how many of them were at the end of a registered gun? These gang bangers aren't walking into a store and buying them. They can't, at least they couldn't prior to the overturning of the gun laws by the Courts yet again. It's already been demonstrated that the guns are being bought out of State (Mississippi specifically) and brought back to the city. So if this new legislation is perceived as being a response to Sandy Hook then it might have some impact assuming every insane shooter goes the legal route. But if it's in response to Chicago's own bloom in gun deaths, it will have ZERO impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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