caanglin Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Thats because all their purposed laws are already on the books, just not being enforced. Like that alleged gun show loophole? Or internet sales like say gunbrocker.com, where it is shipped to a local FFL? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Like that alleged gun show loophole? Or internet sales like say gunbrocker.com, where it is shipped to a local FFL? I'm sick of explaining it to people. They simply accept whatever CNN throws in their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 Wait, you mean I can't go buy an AK-47 at the gun show this Saturday without a FOID or a background check? Dammit, better make alternative plans then. Background on the claim: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/the-stale-claim-that-40-percent-of-gun-sales-lack-background-checks/2013/01/20/e42ec050-629a-11e2-b05a-605528f6b712_blog.html 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) The term "Gun Show Loophole" is misleading, as private firearm sellers are not required to perform background checks regardless of location—whether they are at a gun show, a flea market, their home, or anywhere else. Presently, 18 states regulate private firearm sales at gun shows. Seven states require background checks on all gun sales at gun shows (California, Colorado (§12-26.1-101 and § 24-33.5-424, CRS), Rhode Island, Connecticut, Oregon, New York, and Illinois). Four states (Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania) require background checks on all handgun, but not long gun, purchasers at gun shows. Seven states require individuals to obtain a permit to purchase handguns that involves a background check (Massachusetts, Michigan, North Carolina, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota). Certain counties in Florida require background checks on all private sales of handguns at gun shows. Furthermore, ALL online sales are legally required to ship to a certified FFL who will conduct the background check before turning over the firearm to you. Also, you can buy a SEMI automatic AK-47 without much trouble. This is NOT an assualt rifle however. Go wherever you like and try to buy a real assault rifle with full auto and/or select fire. It's not the way you appear to think it is. Edited April 18, 2013 by Gideon35T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 The term "Gun Show Loophole" is misleading, as private firearm sellers are not required to perform background checks regardless of location—whether they are at a gun show, a flea market, their home, or anywhere else. Presently, 18 states regulate private firearm sales at gun shows. Seven states require background checks on all gun sales at gun shows (California, Colorado (§12-26.1-101 and § 24-33.5-424, CRS), Rhode Island, Connecticut, Oregon, New York, and Illinois). Four states (Hawaii, Maryland, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania) require background checks on all handgun, but not long gun, purchasers at gun shows. Seven states require individuals to obtain a permit to purchase handguns that involves a background check (Massachusetts, Michigan, North Carolina, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota). Certain counties in Florida require background checks on all private sales of handguns at gun shows. Furthermore, ALL online sales are legally required to ship to a certified FFL who will conduct the background check before turning over the firearm to you. Also, you can buy a SEMI automatic AK-47 without much trouble. This is NOT an assualt rifle however. Go wherever you like and try to buy a real assault rifle with full auto and/or select fire. It's not the way you appear to think it is. Actually, Illinois you technically MUST check for a FOID card for personal sales too, and retain all documents pertaining to the sale for up to 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Ahh, thank you. I wasn't aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Ahh, thank you. I wasn't aware. yup, gangbangers however are breaking that law though. Tsk Tsk. Better throw them in jail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Well, the lawless care not for laws. That will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 i'm sure they didn't want to be shot yesterday. http://www.inquisitr.com/625612/4-shot-in-basement-found-dead-in-akron/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Actually, Illinois you technically MUST check for a FOID card for personal sales too, and retain all documents pertaining to the sale for up to 10 years. And this is why I made the joke I did. But only someone in Illinois or who is familiar with our laws would get that joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
550 Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 And this is why I made the joke I did. But only someone in Illinois or who is familiar with our laws would get that joke. lol, I did get it. Come June 9th with no actual carry law, you will see something like that in the news I can gaurantee. RE: Carrying an AK47 in public, open carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caanglin Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) i'm sure they didn't want to be shot yesterday. http://www.inquisitr.com/625612/4-shot-in-basement-found-dead-in-akron/ he saw the “wide open” door to the basement. “Our officers came out here to investigate that, did not get an answer at the door; they did force entry into the house" Edited April 19, 2013 by fivex84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Also, you can buy a SEMI automatic AK-47 without much trouble. This is NOT an assualt rifle however. Go wherever you like and try to buy a real assault rifle with full auto and/or select fire. It's not the way you appear to think it is. This is one of the MOST ironic statements I've ever read on this forum. It might not be an "assault" rifle according to some existing definition out there in the US laws - whatever that is - but it also happens to be the single long gun responsible for more death in the entire history of guns. It is by definition an assault rifle. More of them and close derivatives have been manufactured than any other. Collecting price data for panel analysis requires an operational definition of the variable of interest that will provide consistency across time and countries. In the case of small arms there is an obvious choice: the AK-47 assault rifle. Of the estimated 500 million firearms worldwide, approximately 100 million belong to the Kalashnikov family, three-quarters of which are AK-47s (Small Arms Survey 2004). Cited by Phillip Kilicoat in an analysis written for the Oxford Department of Economics. See the latest from the Small Arms Survey discussing production : http://www.smallarmssurvey.org/fileadmin/docs/H-Research_Notes/SAS-Research-Note-25.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon35T Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 This is one of the MOST ironic statements I've ever read on this forum. It might not be an "assault" rifle according to some existing definition out there in the US laws - whatever that is - but it also happens to be the single long gun responsible for more death in the entire history of guns. It is by definition an assault rifle. More of them have been manufactured than any other. A semi automatic AK-47 ? You runderstanding of firearms is either extremely limited or you just can't stand the fact that two things that look the same aren't. By this logic all Fieros with a rebody MUST be EXACTLY the same as a real Lambo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Where did I say I was buying a semi-automatic AK-47 oh high and mighty? You dropped semi-automatic into it. My roommate in college was a FFL. I saw more than my fair share of AKs move through the apartment. And it doesn't take much to move from semi-automatic to selective. An AK is an AK in its potential. Whether it's semi-automatic or fully selective fire, it's still an assault rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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