Working On My Car - Pcv And Rubber Lines, Replacement Questions

[troyhyde]

He's getting his panties in a bunch because he thinks I'm some idiot who's trying to "improve on Volvo's design" and take shortcuts.

I'm not, but he doesn't care. I'd actually sit down and acknowledge what he was saying, but he was a douchebag from the beginning.

Long story short - The one point he brought up that does make sense and I admittedly knew better and forgot is the rubber composition of the heater hose. I wasn't thinking with that. Every other point he made was just....idiotic. I'm running hose because I have blow-by and am throwing in a catchcan to help it. I would do straight Volvo crap, but I'm planning on doing the catchcan. I also didn't plan on really redoing the whole thing; I just wanted to pull it apart to clean the front of the engine (as you can see, it's filthy from previous owner rolling around with clogged up PCV) and to make sure everything is A-OK down there. BUt then plans changed when I saw it, and I needed to do SOMETHING before the following roadtrip. The only spare parts I had was the intake manifold gasket. Soooo, I relieved a stuff-ton of the pressure and fixed a stuff-ton of issues for $20. I am completely aware that I need to run better hosing to the catch can, and a new can is on the way.

Everything else is him making assumptions that I don't know what I'm doing, that my car is a piece of stuff, that I'm an idiot, that I'm planning on cutting corners, etc. Things would have gone a lot differently, if he didn't come out swinging and being a douchebag.

I think my favorite part was when he said that the hose would kink (oh yeah! please, you think I would be stupid enough to pull it super-tight?) or that it would collapse do to heat. Either was, he was looking for ways to call me/volvospeed idiots. The only potential issue is the rubber composition, and from what I've read, it takes tens of thousands of miles/several years before it becomes an issue. That being said, I'm planning on re-running it with the better hose.

I don't think you are trying to improve on Volvo's original engineering design. I don't even think this is possible (from you). I think you are trying to rig something because you are cheap and ignorant (your subsequent rants help solidify this opinion).

I'm being a douchebag because this subject has come up MULTIPLE times in the last few weeks and nobody seems willing to do (or instruct folks to do) the intelligent thing from the get-go. Everyone wants to think outside the box with this job. Here's a hint - on this one - think INSIDE the box. If you have a true need for additional venting for very high boost applications, that's a different subject altogether and there are some very good posts on the subject. The fact that your car looks stock and has a ton of blowby tells me something.... it's already been neglected/abused so much it is probably WAY DOWN on compression. (blowby from the rings = engine needs a rebuild) But then, what do I know... You've bolted on a swaybar, so you probably have A LOT MORE experience than myself (note sarcasm please).

The heater hose is actually pretty tough material, it doesn't seem to fail by rotting / drying / melting, whatever. It fails because it folds. (what I've been trying to get across for 75 posts)

I can't comment much regarding your "skills", a quick glance at your engine bay says pretty much all that needs to be said. I think my worst car looks a touch better than your pride and joy, sorry chief.

AND......... for the record, I haven't insulted "volvospeed", I have insulted YOUR idiotic and unresearched "theories". I fear posts such as yours will discourage folks from actually doing this job correctly. Personally, I get a tremendous amount of useful information from this website. If you would learn how to listen to those more experienced than yourself, you'd get the same benefits.

I won't hold my breath.....

[survolvo]

[rmorse]

Again, a ton of incorrect assumptions, troy.

[rmorse]

PS, last compression test read 178-180 across all five. Again, you're making incorrect assumptions and looking like a jackass to all who've seen me and my car in person. But hey, don't let those assumptions stop you. You can tell every little thing about me and my car from that one picture of me cleaning up the mess from the PO.

[survolvo]

[rmorse]

You're right.... I'm done responding to him and egging him on.

[cn90]

1+,

I hate to be a referee in debate like this, but I think troyhyde brought up some good points about the heater hose material (EPDM) not being able to handle oil.

This maybe true but it will take years for that to happen.

FYI, I just replaced the Turbo coolant hose (the INLET hose that runs behind the Turbo) at 15y/150K miles. With oil constantly dripping on it (from PCV system), it took some 15y/150K miles of HEAT (from coolant + exhaust heat) and OIL (from PCV) to cause swelling of the hose.

The PCV system should be renewed every 8-10y/100K anyway, and I can guarantee you that the heater hose can handle that because I have been using heater hose for PCV purpose for 30 years and I know it works. Just make sure the bend is nice and gentle, no kink.

I think people need to:

- Stop insulting others

- Politely make your points and done

This will make the forum a better place to be.

[rmorse]

1+,

I hate to be a referee in debate like this, but I think troyhyde brought up some good points about the heater hose material (EPDM) not being able to handle oil.

This maybe true but it will take years for that to happen.

FYI, I just replaced the Turbo coolant hose (the INLET hose that runs behind the Turbo) at 15y/150K miles. With oil constantly dripping on it (from PCV system), it took some 15y/150K miles of HEAT (from coolant + exhaust heat) and OIL (from PCV) to cause swelling of the hose.

The PCV system should be renewed every 8-10y/100K anyway, and I can guarantee you that the heater hose can handle that because I have been using heater hose for PCV purpose for 30 years and I know it works. Just make sure the bend is nice and gentle, no kink.

I think people need to:

- Stop insulting others

- Politely make your points and done

This will make the forum a better place to be.

I agree. I overreacted when he came out with the insults on the first page. Whenever you insult someone like that, no good comes out of it (snowballed because I insulted right back). Regardless of the points being made, I want to fight them. I do agree with the couple points made about oil (thinking about addressing it) and the heater hose kinking (addressed that during the install, already knew about it).

[adamdrives]

I think part of the frustration comes from the fact that although many of the members here have lots of experience and can deal with unforeseen problems with modifiying, etc/ components, and can exercise their judgement, many members here are new and it's important to try to give them the best possible information so that we don't breed a whole new generation of nitwits. Different components may have different intended applications and it is helpful for a beginner to know that when making repairs so that they can get the best possible outcome and not annoy us with a million questions.