Fudge_Brownie Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, flyfishing3 said: If its mandatory you won't have the suppression that's prevalent now What suppression? I'm asking because while I'm aware of some isolated incidents, I'm not sure many would agree with such a broad statement the way you phrased it. Why couldn't we still have that same suppression? After it's mandatory, we can make sure you need your National ID card to vote, and keep the same number of poling locations/staffing/parking despite the double/triple turn out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 20 hours ago, gmsgltr said: we should all have the day off and just party all day I plan on being baked all day. My party has already started. 13 hours ago, Fudge_Brownie said: I'm not sure you understand how rights work. Just as a right can be exercised, it can be waived. That's the whole point of protecting individual's freedom to choose. By making it a compulsory vote, it's no longer a right. Maybe compromise between the two in that if you voted and have proof (generate some kind of receipt or something when you vote), it's a valid excuse to take the day off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Heres 2 that took me 4 seconds https://thinkprogress.org/north-carolina-gop-happy-suppression-worked-a4b3c06d1996#.yx91qq7ke and that's from 2 of the most important states in this election 27 minutes ago, Timbo Slice said: Maybe compromise between the two in that if you voted and have proof (generate some kind of receipt or something when you vote), it's a valid excuse to take the day off. You get a tax credit for showing up and voting. If you don't want a credit, then so be it. Would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 4 hours ago, Timbo Slice said: Maybe compromise between the two in that if you voted and have proof (generate some kind of receipt or something when you vote), it's a valid excuse to take the day off. I like that a lot in theory, but kinda curious how that gets enforced. Government people or managers are going to be demanding receipts? I don't like that part of it. 4 hours ago, flyfishing3 said: Heres 2 that took me 4 seconds https://thinkprogress.org/north-carolina-gop-happy-suppression-worked-a4b3c06d1996#.yx91qq7ke I already said I was aware of isolated incidents. In fact, I knew of one that happened in MA. Bill Clinton showed up in New Bedford during the primaries, with entourage/motorcade and allegedly caused a clusterfuck making it hard for people to get to the voting location. But you didn't address the more important issue: How does mandatory voting improve any of that? It will only make it worse. People aren't going to bother because there's a 10hr line. And what are you going to do to those people who refused to stand around for a long time? Punish them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theForgottenone Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 12 minutes ago, Fudge_Brownie said: I like that a lot in theory, but kinda curious how that gets enforced. Government people or managers are going to be demanding receipts? I don't like that part of it. I already said I was aware of isolated incidents. In fact, I knew of one that happened in MA. Bill Clinton showed up in New Bedford during the primaries, with entourage/motorcade and allegedly caused a clusterfuck making it hard for people to get to the voting location. But you didn't address the more important issue: How does mandatory voting improve any of that? It will only make it worse. People aren't going to bother because there's a 10hr line. And what are you going to do to those people who refused to stand around for a long time? Punish them? Why isn't all states offer ballot by mail. I been voting for both local and presidential election via ballot by mail since college. Never had to step into any voting booth or know what it is look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Privatizing voting will clean that up and they can get the machines where they are needed I've voted absentee the last 2 elections. PA is one day only. I wouldnt call state wide suppression isolated incidents either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, flyfishing3 said: Privatizing voting will clean that up and they can get the machines where they are needed You're concerned with voter suppression, but not with the politics that could come from a private company handling it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 So then you believe the govt does everything perfect and doesn't have its finger on the scale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fudge_Brownie Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 26 minutes ago, flyfishing3 said: So then you believe the govt does everything perfect and doesn't have its finger on the scale? No way, and I'm often for privatization and smaller government. But voting does not seem like a place that should have financial interests. I don't want Blackwater or SurveyMonkey administering the voting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 More GOP cock blocking the regular person https://www.thenation.com/article/this-99-year-old-man-rode-his-bike-to-the-polls-republicans-turned-him-away/ 3 hours ago, Fudge_Brownie said: No way, and I'm often for privatization and smaller government. But voting does not seem like a place that should have financial interests. I don't want Blackwater or SurveyMonkey administering the voting. Ok but now you are letting a political party decide district budgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikS Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Put down the acid Mike, and slowly walk away ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin. Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 and give the acid to me, I'm off work tomorrow LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshV70 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 On December 10, 2015 at 0:37 PM, Burn-E said: Let's just be clear on one thing. Trump will not become President. Cue Gary. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow95 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Eric- How do those saggy balls taste now? At least you can take solice in the fact that your vote did in deed not count. Kevin- I still love you. To all those that said you would leave if he is elected, send me a link to your gofundme page TRUMP TRAIM BITCHES WOOOOOOOT WOOOOOOOOOT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I'm blown away 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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