Burn-E Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I think you underestimate how attractive the siren song becomes for any politician in his position when the race is wide open on both sides and people keep saying the race is yours to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caanglin Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 ANTI TEACHER Bad He's pro 2nd amend Good He's PRO life Bad anti union Meh proven to be anti gay Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Chris, so most of those points are negatives for you. Is the 2nd so important, he would have your vote( purely speculative, don't worry) against Hillary? I think you underestimate how attractive the siren song becomes for any politician in his position when the race is wide open on both sides and people keep saying the race is yours to lose. they ran the numbers at least in NJ, Hillary would own him according to exit polls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 Show me the survey and when it was run and by whom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I'll search, I saw it live on msnbc last night and they were exit polls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caanglin Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 (edited) Chris, so most of those points are negatives for you. Is the 2nd so important, he would have your vote( purely speculative, don't worry) against Hillary? Yes, which is why I find I have no political camp. It seems like liberals want the government to run everything and take care of them and conservatives are way to... conservative. If it came down to both of them I wouldn't vote. Edited November 6, 2013 by fivex84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 A http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/05/21324042-exit-polls-clinton-beats-christie-in-nj-in-potential-2016-matchup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted November 6, 2013 Report Share Posted November 6, 2013 I found similar. I don't buy it. http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnns-john-king-reports-hillary-clintons-slight-6-point-edge-over-christie-in-nj-exit-polls/ Too many variables and not enough definition around Hillary who stands as an undefined yet well known candidate. The voters had a clear sense of Christie and only warm fuzzy remembrances of Clinton as a candidate 6 years ago. The point is, no one stands up against her as well as Christie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 here's some early stuff they'll use on CC. exceeded travel expenses often sought exemption from NJ consumer fraud act govt contracts 1994 defamation suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 That's tiddlywinks compared to the laundry list of skeletons Hillary has trailing behind her. Including her stint as Sec State. And Mike if you think he won't run you must not be listening to the words coming out of CC's mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 yeah, i've listened to some of his comments over the last 2 days. He's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeyman Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Christie is an interesting study, but I believe Hillary will ride the wave of being the first potential woman President much in the same way President Obama rode the wave as the first African american one, regardless of platform. My problem with Hillary is that I saw no sense of personal responsibility as it related to Benghazi, and that she came across as being quite imperious.(imo) Of course she was applauded for standing up to her inquisitors, but as previously noted, I didn't see anywhere in which "she owned it" in the sense of it being on her watch as S of S, and wonder if she would adopt the same posture in the Oval Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Anyone who has watched Hillary since she started running at the national level, first with Bill and later on her own should recognize that ambition steers her completely. She will own what she has to or wants to only if it benefits her first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeyman Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 I've tried not to watch her, but point well taken. And that's probably true of many that have achieved that office, however I do believe it serves to erode the respect of it. I write this knowing that I don't have any solutions, or suggested individuals that would necessarily improve and restore such things. Too many disparate moving parts in my view.... (So back to my cave.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caanglin Posted November 7, 2013 Report Share Posted November 7, 2013 Anyone who has watched Hillary since she started running at the national level, first with Bill and later on her own should recognize that ambition steers her completely. She will own what she has to or wants to only if it benefits her first. "What does it matter now?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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