Burn-E Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 another guy loved him but didn't think he was in politics long enough to really know what he's all about. He is a relative new comer to National politics. THIS is hysterical when you consider that Obama had all of 2 years in national politics before he ran. The difference is Christie has actually been an executive who has run a State and successfully negotiated a balanced budget when faced with both the Senate and the General Assembly run by Democrats instead of a State and Federal Senator who merely politicks, debates, and legislates things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Biggest problem with Christie is even if he does run, he won't get the party nomination. That is the issue worth considering. But if Hillary is running and looks like she might be successful then you might find that Republicans are willing to look past their differences and unite around a candidate who can win. I also think a revolt is coming against the Teabaggers for making such a mess of the efforts against Obama and the ACA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Elizabeth Warren the counterpoint female liberal candidate who could challenge Hillary's weak points? http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115509/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clintons-nightmare?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=margin&utm_campaign=mostpopular The argument is plausible. i guess we might as well start a thread. predictions: 3. Elizabeth Warren is pushed into running but doesn't have the chops to win. yep, already called that. she'll get in, but if hillary says yes, she will clear the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 You didn't read the article Mike. It's specifically because of who Hillary depends on for her fundraising that Warren will not clear the deck. Warren is on a mission and the offices she holds are only a means to that end. She has a very strong populist appeal and that is the direction the voters are shifting if you haven't noticed. Hillary might be strong in some areas but she doesn't have a response to this particular brand of populism. But as central as this debate is to the identity of the party, Democrats won’t openly litigate it until they’re forced to ponder life after Obama. Partly out of deference to the president, partly out of a preoccupation with governing, and partly because there is no immediate political need, parties rarely conduct their internal soul-searching when they control the White House. It’s only when the president finally contemplates retirement that the feuding breaks out with real violence. Think of the Republican Party after George W. Bush. Or, you know, Yugoslavia. Judging from recent events, the populists are likely to win. In September, New York City Public Advocate Bill de Blasio, running on a platform of taming inequality, routed his Democratic mayoral rival, Christine Quinn, known for her ties to Michael Bloomberg’s finance-friendly administration. The following week, Larry Summers, Obama’s first choice to succeed Ben Bernanke as Federal Reserve chairman, withdrew his name from consideration after months in which Senate Democrats signaled their annoyance with his previous support for deregulation. Not 48 hours later, Bill Daley, the former Obama chief of staff and JP Morgan executive, ended his primary campaign for governor of Illinois after internal polls showed him trailing his populist opponent. All of this is deeply problematic for Hillary Clinton. As a student of public opinion, she clearly understands the direction her party is headed. As the head of an enterprise known as Clinton Inc. that requires vast sums of capital to function, she also realizes there are limits to how much she can alienate the lords of finance. For that matter, it’s not even clear Clinton would want to. “Many of her best friends, her intellectual brain trust [on economics], all come out of that world,” says a longtime Democratic operative who worked on Bill Clinton’s 1992 campaign and then for Hillary in the White House. “She doesn’t have a problem on the fighting-for-working-class-folks side”—protecting Medicare and Social Security—“but it will be hard, really wrenching for her to be that populist on [finance] issues.” Which brings us to the probable face of the insurgency. In addition to being strongly identified with the party’s populist wing, any candidate who challenged Clinton would need several key assets. The candidate would almost certainly have to be a woman, given Democrats’ desire to make history again. She would have to amass huge piles of money with relatively little effort. Above all, she would have to awaken in Democratic voters an almost evangelical passion. As it happens, there is precisely such a person. Her name is Elizabeth Warren. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 oh i know, but the mass unwashed will not make up the money wall street will drop on HC. good or bad. i hate to admit it, but money in the bank wins virtually every time. i love warren going after the banks/wall street etc. but they will snuff her out when it matters. <<waits for them to attack over her .0000001% extra minority status.>>>>haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOHN_CENA Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Rand Paul for President Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 My Man John Huntsman was on a couple different MSNBC shows today. Man is he good. Could have been a great press. imo. Plus his daughter is crazy hot. i doubt he will try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesoam Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Selina Meyer 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 This CC bridge stuff is a riot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caanglin Posted January 10, 2014 Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Selina Meyer 2016 Elaine Benes seems more likely to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2014 Wow Rachel just cracked this. It has nothing to do with the mayor like some thought, it has to do with the Supreme Court of NJ. This just got new legs in a different direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'm hearing rumblings my man Huntsman may give it a try If CC flushes out, he could be a prime candidate for the general. Portman can't get it done, and walker is a putz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Looks like CC said he has no plans to leave NJ for any reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I've seen nothing to confirm that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 some speech he gave yesterday at sandy hit area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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