mattsk8 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm a little not shocked that it was installed by a dealer. Typical SS. I was thinking the same thing, but I was also curious how you could possibly install an ECU wrong too. Still trying to wrap my mind around those different variables; trying to plug it in upside down? Putting it in the muffler rather than plugging it into the ECU harness?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Tuna Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 He most certainly is. There's obviously A LOT you don't know about Lucky. Ask him how he got his base tunes. Curious to hear his response. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caanglin Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 And I was about to get a blue tune for my wagon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Riker Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I was thinking the same thing, but I was also curious how you could possibly install an ECU wrong too. Still trying to wrap my mind around those different variables; trying to plug it in upside down? Putting it in the muffler rather than plugging it into the ECU harness?? I'm just wondering if the ECU wasn't secured properly or was making a poor connection. I highly doubt they tried to install it upside down. lol Generally in electronics... when you have a poor connection... the same amount of power is trying to cross a smaller surface area... therefore it gets hot. This probably better explains it. https://sites.google.com/site/themasterelectricianssite/electrical-overheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheat2win99 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 <<<<<<<<<<<< I bitched about my tune a while back and ended up with Whiner above my name............. Thats why people don't talk about it on here. Again, Like mattsk8, i'm not looking to slander Lucky, I'm simply expressing why I won't do buisness with him ever again. He never said anything to me that made me feel like I was being talked down to. Hell if we were all hanging out I'd probably buy him a beer. he was that cool when talking to me............ I just really don't like his buisness practace is all. He was a "cheap" option for me when I got it and I got exactly what I paid for. #1 I SUSPECT HE HAS CHANGED THE CAM TIMING DIRECTIONS ON HIS SITE AND DIDN'T TELL ANYONE. he said he changed the wording but not the numbers... then i pointed out that VIVA had differnt numbers than him for some reason, Now VIVA matches his site.... I guess he fixed that. #2 NO PLACE ON THE ARD SITE dose it say "green tune may not work with your OEM BCS, or CBV." And yet the first suggestion he makes once I paid for the tune and couldn't boost was.... your BCS is failing.... #3 Per his site.... Warranty: Modifying your vehicle means you are taking it outside the normal operating parameters it was designed to withstand. This means components begin to wear and break sooner and easier as the vehicle power increases. ARD does not provide a warranty for the customers vehicles or any of the associated components on that vehicle in any way expressed or implied. It is your responsibility to ensure your vehicle is in good operational condition and properly equipped for the level of tuning and power you are seeking. When in doubt, ask! NO PLACE ON THE SITE ARE THE warrenty policy for the tunes stated. meaning if in 3 months my ECU stops working what will ARD do, and how much would it cost me. He is just making this $75 per hour testing thing up on the Fly. I don't know what state he is in but in FL.... 672.316 Exclusion or modification of warranties.— (1) Words or conduct relevant to the creation of an express warranty and words or conduct tending to negate or limit warranty shall be construed wherever reasonable as consistent with each other; but, subject to the provisions of this chapter on parol or extrinsic evidence (s. 672.202), negation or limitation is inoperative to the extent that such construction is unreasonable. (2) Subject to subsection (3), to exclude or modify the implied warranty of merchantability or any part of it, the language must mention merchantability and in case of a writing must be conspicuous; and, to exclude or modify any implied warranty of fitness, the exclusion must be by a writing and conspicuous. Language to exclude all implied warranties of fitness is sufficient if it states, for example, that “There are no warranties which extend beyond the description on the face hereof.” (3) Notwithstanding subsection (2): (a) Unless the circumstances indicate otherwise, all implied warranties are excluded by expressions like “as is” or “with all faults” or other language which in common understanding calls the buyer’s attention to the exclusion of warranties and makes plain that there is no implied warranty; and ( When the buyer before entering into the contract has examined the goods or the sample or model as fully as he or she desired or has refused to examine the goods, there is no implied warranty with regard to defects which an examination ought in the circumstances to have revealed to him or her; and © An implied warranty can also be excluded or modified by a course of dealing or course of performance or usage of trade. I would think that if I'm getting a CUSTOM tune like he says........ we are establashing an Emplied warranty of some sort.....because I have no way to test and inspect prior to buying it. I would LOVE to see how he would fight this one off in Court.... " Judge Judy: SO your selling Custom tunes from across the country, for cars you've never seen, based on a build sheet. Lucky: yes your honor... JJ: And what happens if you get the tune wrong? Lucky: My tunes are never wrong. JJ: Realy, and how do you know that? Lucky: because all i do is change the Boost curve. JJ: SO lets say you send me a Tune and Fed ex drops it off a truck and somehow something gets wonky in the "code" you put in... what then? Lucky: well....................... I'd charge you $75 an hour to test the tune, if I find something wrong its free, but if not then you have to pay me to get your tune back. JJ: Is this "policy" stated any place, sales recipt? web site? Lucky: No..... JJ: FAIL! Give the person back his tune. I took everyones word that Lucky is a cool guy and he will make things right if something is wrong... and clearly he isn't doing that. We had the same issue with Stylin motors when they started to go bad........ people defended them, and defended them, until finally they understood it was crap. EDIT: I still don't even know if my problem is the tune or not.... 2 of my cars won't boost past 12psi. and 1 of my friends cars did get the 17psi as stated by Lucky. so 2 out of 3 cars tested failed with his tune........ I will do more testing on various cars and see what results I get. I Can't and WONT say his tune is crap, because I havn't gotten the damn thing to work in my car yet. hmmm, so your having the same issue as me...i cannot boost past 10 psi with the ARD Tune, mine is suppose to be hitting 14 psi. I have talked to Lucky about it a bunch of times, I have adjusted and checked my wg arm, I have tried a brand new tcv, I have a new wg actuator, new cbv, I have checked for leaks, tried a new maf, replaced my front o2 sensor, cleared codes to make sure im not in "limp mode", , I also resent him my ecu back so he could "reprogram" it, he said everything looked fine, I have been using my mbc for the past year and half... i did notice the car built boost a lot quicker with the tcv but just could never get it past 10 psi, isn't that close to the stock t5 ecu's?.........hmmmm.....i'm not saying it the tune either but who knows at this point, i've replaced a lot of crap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston Slapper Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I'm a little not shocked that it was installed by a dealer. Typical SS. How many other places do you know that can replace and reload an ME7 ECU after it's been BBQ'd? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Riker Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 How many other places do you know that can replace and reload an ME7 ECU after it's been BBQ'd? I guess that's a good point... since another ECU was physically required, I guess the ME7 stuff has be program to VINs and stuff. Was the car's original ECU used by ARD for the tune? I would have gotten a clone. Guess it's not as easy as I've experienced with 4.4. What I'm now curious about is the list of folks who have had problems, and there obviously are... but the metrics involved. How many people have had issues, and of those people, how many were M4.3/4.4 VS ME7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheat2win99 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 what if some of us swapped ecus with similar setups to test........... and after replacing a lot of crap like i did lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 This is getting into the "he-said, she-said" BS, which I was trying to stay out of but.... Apparently, reading through the older threads on SS, someone received a knock-off forge product and contacted forge about it, who in turn dropped the hammer on ARD. I do NOT know if that's true or not. Can you come lube my piston? Why? Don't like the farting sound either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 All this being said about tunes making cars run like shit, I'd never put someone else's tune in my car to see if it makes mine run like shit too. No thanks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorse Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Why? Don't like the farting sound either? OMFG!!! I was making a joke about you coming and jerking me off, but THAT'S what that sound is???? EDIT: What did you use to lube it? Edited December 12, 2013 by rmorse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piston Slapper Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I guess that's a good point... since another ECU was physically required, I guess the ME7 stuff has be program to VINs and stuff. Was the car's original ECU used by ARD for the tune? I would have gotten a clone. Guess it's not as easy as I've experienced with 4.4. I'd assume since they had to have a new one put in that it wasn't a clone, otherwise they'd have just dropped in the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 But just so we're clear... Glenn Beck did totally kill that girl in 1990. Glen Beck killed and raped a girl in 1990? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 OMFG!!! I was making a joke about you coming and jerking me off, but THAT'S what that sound is???? EDIT: What did you use to lube it? I know. I was returning the joke. I used Lucas red grease Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmorse Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 I know. I was returning the joke. I used Lucas red grease Oh ok. But yea, that noise is really annoying. I knew it was the Forge, but I didn't know how to get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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