Commander Riker Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 http://bit.ly/1fcblTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 (edited) http://bit.ly/1fcblTW Guessing that was aimed at me. I know how to buy a boost gauge, but thanks for the direction. Can you use that same feature and tell me "how to tell if your V70 is safe to drive long distances because your ECU may have been cooked during the write process" and see what you come up w/?? Edited December 13, 2013 by mattsk8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Commander Riker Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Guessing that was aimed at me. I know how to buy a boost gauge, but thanks for the direction. Can you use that same feature and tell me "how to tell if your V70 is safe to drive long distances because your ECU may have been cooked during the write process" and see what you come up w/?? Actually... no, that's why I posted that. One of the ways you know whether or not your modified car is behaving properly, is by monitoring the gauges one would normally install. Personally man, I really tried to be supportive of your build and offer you any and all knowledge I could on the swap. I was glad to see you take on the swap as it has gotten more popular as of late. Hell... I especially want to get people in the M66 AWD club! Why? Because it's obviously the best. :-P I would like to help your sort out your problems, and still would... However, after reading your troubling posts, only to find out you haven't even added a boost gauge... let alone a wideband... and are having complaints about how someone poorly tuned your car... your complaint just lost me. The FIRST thing any turbo car should really have, is a boost gauge. Not to mention modifying it. Now you're just posting bits and pieces of your correspondence with lucky that you are admittedly summarizing. It's hard for me to help you as just another forum member if you cannot tell me exactly what your car is doing or not doing. So get some gauges. EDITED : because grammar 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 However, after reading your troubling posts, only to find out you haven't even added a boost gauge... let alone a wideband... and are having complaints about how someone poorly tuned your car... your complaint just of lost me. The FIRST thing any turbo car should really have, is a boost gauge. Not to mention modifying it. Now you're just posting bits and pieces of your correspondence with lucky that you are admittedly summarizing. It's hard for me to help you as just another forum member if you cannot tell me exactly what your car is doing or not doing. So get some gauges. First let me say you've been a huge help, and I really do appreciate that. I totally understand that I need a boost gauge, I actually ordered one from iPd today. I've stated over and over that I'm not out to complain about the performance aspect of my tune, its been the customer service aspect of it that I have issues w/, and that's what I'm trying to work through now. My first dealings w/ ARD's customer service were simply trying to get them to come to the realization that the tune was the issue. Once I finally got some resolution there and he allowed me to mail the thing back to him, I get it back w/ the statement that my ECU might be fried. This is the issue I'm confronting, and have been since I started. I haven't made any claims that weren't warranted, I simply want this resolved. Just so you don't think I'm falsely exaggerating any of this, here's the exact response I got that concerns me... Lucky: I'm thinking that ECU may have some issue... not 100% certain it's going to fail but the IMMO eeprom was partly corrupt, perhaps from short circuit during the write process.. hard to say for sure. Me: What does that mean? I planned on taking it to a guy I know w/ a wheel dyno, mainly because I don't know that I feel the 70ish HP difference from the Blue Tune and I'm curious where its at. That will cost $100, but I don't want to go that route if this ECM is potentially bad. It seems to run good, but I've basically only driven to work and back w/ it (about 60 miles). There were 2 instances where I felt a weird 'hickup', and both times were in 5th gear at about 45mph when I accelerated a bit. Another odd instance was after I filled it w/ gas; when I finished filling it and went to start it, it was a little bit of a hard start. Could any of that be related to the ECM being bad? I don't have any CEL. Lucky: Essentially the ECU got interrupted during a write to the serial eeprom likely during the adaptations update. So I'm wondering if the ECU lost power at some point shortly after a key off cycle? Regardless I'm not convinced the ECU is at fault but I'd still keep an eye on any odd behaviours. Not sure what you're experiencing is ECU related but without a CEL it's hard to say without being there to test it... As for HP gain, you should note a considerable increase in power so long as the boost is hitting and holding target. Of course this also relies on supporting components like high flow downpipe and intercooler upgrade. While those upgrades aren't necessary for your setup they are something to think about down the line as it can really help the engine reach it's full power potential. Let me know how things go and I'm glad to hear your up and running! Would love to see any pics of the build you might have. This is the whole reason I haven't posted in the review section. I've stated that I don't know how the performance tune is doing, I simply need some clarification on what he's saying when he says my ECU might still be bad. Ironically, while I was typing this Lucky responded to my email w/ this... Lucky: If you're not certain the boost level then a boost gauge is certainly a wise idea. Might simply need to adjust the wastegate a bit if the boost is overshooting a bit. Let me know what you find, otherwise running and driving ok? To which I just responded: I still have the weird hesitation that I've narrowed down to 2500 RPM. at 2500 RPM, the car seems to want to buck a tiny bit so I need to give it more throttle. If you could clear one thing up for me definitively. What do you mean when you say my ECU might be bad? I need to have confidence in this, as I drive a lot (even out of state). What needs to be done to confirm that its good? Could this potentially be a ticking bomb, that I need to be concerned w/? Also, I ordered a boost gauge from iPd. I should have it Tuesday. But still not a word about what it means that my ECU might still be fried, and that's the frustrating part. My goal wasn't to make any false, or even misleading statements. I took some time to write my dealings w/ ARD about 2 pages ago here, and I was completely honest about it. If you read that, you would know more about where my frustrations are. I'm sorry if I offended, and I really do appreciate all the help w/ this so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishing3 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 matt, aren't you glad now you decided to be a supporting member now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsk8 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 matt, aren't you glad now you decided to be a supporting member now? I still am. We're all a bunch of car guys; protocol is for us to get pissed, throw stuff, complain, then go have a beer together. You guys have all been great.I think I'm in the pissed/complain faze w/ Lucky right now. But hopefully we'll work through it and I can buy him a beer someday. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che'_Moderator Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 I still am. We're all a bunch of car guys; protocol is for us to get pissed, throw stuff, complain, then go have a beer together. You guys have all been great. I think I'm in the pissed/complain faze w/ Lucky right now. But hopefully we'll work through it and I can buy him a beer someday. In the off chance he does not get you taken care of, let me know. If it plays out that way I will revoke his vendor status. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt1122 Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 So here is my take on the subject. 1. ARD ME7 tunes are not bad because they are "off the shelf" but because they are BAD. 2. I want to applaud everyone who took the time to post up details of maps and even a easy explanation to why they are bad to people who have not dealt with ME7 3. I find it interesting that ARD doesn't even attempt to fix or explain the situation. No, they are in the wrong and know it. 4. The other interesting factoid is that its not just tunes that ARD seems to be having problems with lately a number of other products have been lacking. 5. I think this is a perfect example of the old adage "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink" 6. The thing I want you guys to take away from my post is this.. '> 7. I think its a shame that people would rather try to dis-credit this information then to hold a vendor accountable. When did ARD start selling ME7 tunes? I seem to remember them delaying a long time on it. Are there earlier model tunes still a different story? As I've heard over and over again for the past few years that they were great? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Bobby.. None of my last post was directed at you. In a sense I was saying some second party info is fine and I realize you were trying to gather some info. Alain: my car issues were part of round 3 which lucky was not the problem. Never sent ecu back and never Persued any thing because I double checked everything before I did. I was Getting bad MAF readings 8 months ago or so, that was a nipple off the vac tree. I owned up to that..it was previous problems I was annoyed with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatespeedbumps Posted December 13, 2013 Report Share Posted December 13, 2013 Since this just hit the press and it's in a different forum some of you may miss it, the ARD official response 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt b Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Since this just hit the press and it's in a different forum some of you may miss it, the ARD official response Which is quickly turning into a shit storm. Matt's response was spot on That's what it's all about. I am surprised that some of the owners who had engine damage immediately following the use of an ARD tune aren't speaking up. Old allegiance, shyness, I don't know but it's odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn-E Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 It's Volvospeed, land of the angry midgets, what do you expect? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIZIO AKA 1 HND MEC Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 Same like the Rep. & Democrats, you are ether in or out!!! No mid way!!! After New Eve will be all fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhiteguy1 Posted December 14, 2013 Report Share Posted December 14, 2013 It's Volvospeed, land of the angry midgets, what do you expect? and new signature Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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