gdog Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, NB-V70R said: Also still have to play around with the MAF constant. Has anyone who performed a significant MAF upgrade have to change any other parameters besides the MAF map to achieve prior drivability? The more I play around with the MAF scaling, the more it seems like other things need to be modified as well such as acceleration enrichment and so on. Thanks for any insight! What size MAF housing are you using? The original MAF editor just multiplies the constants in your bin maf table by whatever multiplier constant you enter. I.e. the usual constants supplied (1.34, 1.94, 2.57) assume you're starting with a stock bin. If you've already modified the MAF table in your bin and you need to update it again (and you're going with one of the std sizes) I recommend you use the "Alternative Mafconverter" available here: http://m44.wikia.com/wiki/Modified_Vehicles direct link: http://www.meditekst.nl/M44/M44_MAF_Converter.zip I recently ran into this when I switched from S90 to 540i maf housing. To answer your question; no, if the maf conversion is done correctly, you should not have to mod other params for the maf update. And remember, use your stock maf sensor; you're only up-sizing the housing. BTW: I'm assuming we can all thank Piet for both of these apps? Edited May 11, 2018 by gdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsgltr Posted May 11, 2018 Report Share Posted May 11, 2018 the two o-rings/seals on the maf are also very important... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB-V70R Posted May 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 On 5/10/2018 at 11:16 PM, gdog said: What size MAF housing are you using? The original MAF editor just multiplies the constants in your bin maf table by whatever multiplier constant you enter. I.e. the usual constants supplied (1.34, 1.94, 2.57) assume you're starting with a stock bin. If you've already modified the MAF table in your bin and you need to update it again (and you're going with one of the std sizes) I recommend you use the "Alternative Mafconverter" available here: http://m44.wikia.com/wiki/Modified_Vehicles direct link: http://www.meditekst.nl/M44/M44_MAF_Converter.zip I recently ran into this when I switched from S90 to 540i maf housing. To answer your question; no, if the maf conversion is done correctly, you should not have to mod other params for the maf update. And remember, use your stock maf sensor; you're only up-sizing the housing. BTW: I'm assuming we can all thank Piet for both of these apps? Thanks for the response, I'm using a 3.5in OD MAF housing (which I think measured 3.25" ID) with my stock sensor of course. I started with 1.94 as my multiplier in that tool you linked, but I remember the car running rich mostly, but swinging to lean with the fuel trims occasionally. This was all before I bent those rods a couple months ago and I wasn't datalogging at the time. Since then, I've tried multiplying that (x1.94) table by 0.9 (which seemed too lean), 0.95, and 0.96 which I have been running on for a couple of weeks. My idle fuel trims are not any more than they were before the upgrade. AFR at WOT was 11.7 or so before the upgrade and now dips into the high 9s. My bin is pretty far from stock though with modified injectors, load axes rescaled and so on. If those other things were done incorrectly I could see that flaring up and causing a problem. The more I write about it, it kind of sounds like I have a boost leak. I'm gonna go check my charge piping after this. On 5/11/2018 at 8:45 AM, gmsgltr said: the two o-rings/seals on the maf are also very important... I don't remember removing or keeping them lol.... I'll have to pop out the sensor to double check. OK nvm it is 95 deg out so I'll check it later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicaljake Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Car looks great so far! mad props. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB-V70R Posted November 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2018 Trying to prevent the archive . I'm deep into my last year of engineering school and I'm looking forward to graduation in May so I can get back to all my plans on this car. I haven not been able to track down the running issue. I was able to minimize the problematic behavior with a bit of tuning, but it still gets me everywhere I need to go reliably so it isn't top priority. It doesn't help that I keep spending money on computer upgrades, the racecar, and my new Motorcycle (2013 Honda CB500F) lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtj301 Posted August 9, 2019 Report Share Posted August 9, 2019 Is the car still with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB-V70R Posted August 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/9/2019 at 5:25 AM, mrtj301 said: Is the car still with you? Yes it is! And now is as good a time as any for an update, I suppose I finally saved up some of the money for a manual swap earlier this year. I didn't go AWD because I got sick of working on it and I drove some fast FWD cars and they were hilariously fun. Definitely a different type of fun than my 940 Turbo drift car. Of course, COVID hit in March and I was slated to work from home for a few weeks. Therefore, I decided, my stimulus check would go to a bigger turbo now that I had time to work on it LOL. So... it got a 5-speed swap AND a GTX3582R Where the car is at now: Kinugawa GTX3582R ball bearing turbo Shaved Japanifold M56LK 4.00 with Quaife LSD 850R Clutch Stock Engine w/ Chinese H Beam Rods I've got a date with a racetrack this weekend at Street Car Takeover in Bristol, TN. It is registered for the 140mph roll class (God help us all if this brick goes 140) and I've been tuning like crazy trying to turn the car up without destroying it. The boost is currently peaking at 9psi and it is hauling ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD. I'm really curious how high I can rev the stock head because I'm running out of RPM at 7k and the turbo wants more. Definitely need to invest in an Ostrich to put into my spare ECU. Flashing makes iterating through tunes significantly harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykis199009 Posted August 25, 2020 Report Share Posted August 25, 2020 i`m reving to 7500 on hidro lifters old head, 2bar boost, no problems. Look at your VE numbers, good way to recognize if u really need extra rpm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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