JaredR1 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 I'd throw it in and then work on the head from the other engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunktified Posted December 19, 2018 Report Share Posted December 19, 2018 On 12/16/2018 at 11:21 AM, andyb5 said: When it came time to unload the engine from the truck I rented, the shop’s lift couldn’t quite go high enough to allow me to drive the truck out so I had to enlist a couple friends to help I picked one up one time and hoisted it into my wagon with the guy I bought it from .. with our bare hands. . was surprised that was doable but he was pretty confident about it so I went for it.. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb5 Posted December 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2018 On 12/17/2018 at 9:31 PM, JaredR1 said: I'd throw it in and then work on the head from the other engine Eh, I don’t want to put a 99 hydro lifter head on an 04 (originally solid lifter) engine. If anything, I’d grab a dual VVT head to port and install that when the time came. A friend is doing something similar on his wagon this winter, so I’m curious to see how it all turns out On 12/18/2018 at 10:00 PM, phunktified said: I picked one up one time and hoisted it into my wagon with the guy I bought it from .. with our bare hands. . was surprised that was doable but he was pretty confident about it so I went for it.. lol Supposedly a whiteblock is about 400 lbs, definitely doable for 2 people. But if I can take the easy/lazy way out, I’m gonna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunktified Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 21 hours ago, andyb5 said: Eh, I don’t want to put a 99 hydro lifter head on an 04 (originally solid lifter) engine. If anything, I’d grab a dual VVT head to port and install that when the time came. A friend is doing something similar on his wagon this winter, so I’m curious to see how it all turns out Supposedly a whiteblock is about 400 lbs, definitely doable for 2 people. But if I can take the easy/lazy way out, I’m gonna 😂 accessories and turbo were attached as well ... much easier with a board to slide it up/down on .. good luck with the swap, I'm sure you'll make short work of it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apeacock Posted December 21, 2018 Report Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) On 12/20/2018 at 3:49 PM, andyb5 said: Eh, I don’t want to put a 99 hydro lifter head on an 04 (originally solid lifter) engine. If anything, I’d grab a dual VVT head to port and install that when the time came. A friend is doing something similar on his wagon this winter, so I’m curious to see how it all turns out Supposedly a whiteblock is about 400 lbs, definitely doable for 2 people. But if I can take the easy/lazy way out, I’m gonna 😂 Top and bottom end, plus accessory bracket was 322 when I sold my m58 parts wagon for scrap. Maybe too heavy for you central new yorkers I don't know.... That was also what... 2013? Surprised I remember. Edited December 21, 2018 by apeacock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb5 Posted December 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/21/2018 at 1:21 PM, phunktified said: accessories and turbo were attached as well ... much easier with a board to slide it up/down on .. good luck with the swap, I'm sure you'll make short work of it! Thanks, going to get some parts ordered shortly then start tear down after New Years. On 12/21/2018 at 5:09 PM, apeacock said: Top and bottom end, plus accessory bracket was 322 when I sold my m58 parts wagon for scrap. Maybe too heavy for you central new yorkers I don't know.... That was also what... 2013? Surprised I remember. if I was a central New Yorker I might take offense to that! My wagon is temporarily off the road since Chris @huntec was nice enough to loan me his Civic Si to drive home to my parents for Christmas so we had a red car party at his garage the other night. Side note: VTEC is pretty fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredR1 Posted December 25, 2018 Report Share Posted December 25, 2018 On 12/20/2018 at 3:49 PM, andyb5 said: Eh, I don’t want to put a 99 hydro lifter head on an 04 (originally solid lifter) engine. If anything, I’d grab a dual VVT head to port and install that when the time came. A friend is doing something similar on his wagon this winter, so I’m curious to see how it all turns out Good point. Can you control the intake VVT on ME7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb5 Posted December 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 On 12/25/2018 at 6:59 PM, JaredR1 said: Good point. Can you control the intake VVT on ME7? I would think the ECU in my car could be upgraded to control dual VVT, given that a different version of ME7 can do so but I don’t know for sure. That’s a question for someone smarter than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phunktified Posted December 28, 2018 Report Share Posted December 28, 2018 the wiring won't be there, would need a different harness or to run new wires from the ecu box probably, no telling what kind of splicing would be involved ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaredR1 Posted December 31, 2018 Report Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) Yeah I think that is a Steve question At least you are starting with a MY00 which already has a more powerful EMS than MY99. Edited December 31, 2018 by JaredR1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb5 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 On 12/28/2018 at 5:13 PM, phunktified said: the wiring won't be there, would need a different harness or to run new wires from the ecu box probably, no telling what kind of splicing would be involved ... Adding some additional wiring doesn’t really concern me, a similar process is required for the ME7 manual swap. I’m assuming the software side is less straightforward. On 12/30/2018 at 8:54 PM, JaredR1 said: Yeah I think that is a Steve question At least you are starting with a MY00 which already has a more powerful EMS than MY99. Agreed on both accounts. Last night I got started on readying the replacement engine for installation this weekend. I brought it into the shop, picked it up off the shipping pallet, got the wiring harness and flex plate removed, then put it on the engine stand. From there, I removed the injectors, fuel rail, IC pipe, ETM, intake manifold, PCV system, radiator hoses, thermostat and housing, heater core hoses, drained the oil pan/oil cooler and got it ready for the oil pan to come off tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackT5 Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 I would pick up a new one piece exhaust manifold gasket and throw it on since you're at this stage. Sorry I missed it Andy but why are you taking the pan off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb5 Posted January 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 The pan is coming off to replace the o-rings and install the updated pickup tube. I don’t want to deal with that while it’s in the car, much easier to do now. I have a new 1 piece gasket, it’ll get installed before the engine goes into the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andzey Posted January 3, 2019 Report Share Posted January 3, 2019 29 minutes ago, andyb5 said: updated pickup tube any comment, whats the difference, when they appeared and what are the benefits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb5 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 1/3/2019 at 2:47 PM, Andzey said: any comment, whats the difference, when they appeared and what are the benefits? Not sure when they got introduced but here’s a couple pictures of the old metal and new plastic pickup tubes Old tube has a small diameter pickup screen New style pickup tube screen has a much larger surface area. A little bit hard to get a good photo of but it is close to double the area of the old tube You will need longer bolts to secure the new tube to the block - the points where the bolts pass through is about 1 cm thicker than on the metal pickup. I cleaned up the oil pan and block mating surfaces, installed new OEM o-rings, rolled out some Volvo anaerobic gasket and installed the oil pan. It’s pretty easy when the engine is upside down! The B5234T9 that I bought had 127k on it. This means I should expect it has had the timing belt replaced. Closer scrutiny reveals they replaced the water pump too. And they used a non-Aisin pump, which could mean plastic impellers. That’s a problem, so off comes the water pump. To my utter disappointment, whoever replaced it used RTV when installing the new water pump. This not only made it difficult to remove, but very time-consuming to clean the block in preparation for a new pump/gasket. So that was a ton of time wasted cleaning the old gasket off. New Aisin pump will go on later today. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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