Bay13 Posted March 26, 2005 Author Report Posted March 26, 2005 (edited) Does anyone really believe Jesus rose from the dead?Just so I don't do what Peter did and deny him,( Not said to make it sound like I'm better than him, I've got my own denial to deal with) yes I believe it, can I prove it, well you know the answer to that. Edited March 26, 2005 by Bay13 Admin
Che'_Moderator Posted March 26, 2005 Report Posted March 26, 2005 Just so I don't do what Peter did and deny him, yes I believe it, can I prove it, well you know the answer to that.←You sound like Kendall. She always tells me shes believes because if she is wrong no biggie. So with all the people playing it safe I guess its just me and Peter.
Bay13 Posted March 26, 2005 Author Report Posted March 26, 2005 It was predicted that Peter would. Your in good company either way I don't look at my belief as a CYA, more a way of life that has worked better than any plan I came up with on my own.(I've tried/lived my share)
Che'_Moderator Posted March 26, 2005 Report Posted March 26, 2005 It was predicted that Peter would. Your in good company either way I don't look at my belief as a CYA, more a way of life that has worked better than any plan I came up with on my own.(I've tried/lived my share)← I think all religions have parts of it right, but none have nailed it. So I try to live in a way to helps everyone I can and does not hurt anyone. I guess for me it is faith not religion. Live and let live. Maybe I am Peter, but I am not Judas ;)
Kibim Posted March 26, 2005 Report Posted March 26, 2005 You've got it there. Faith is somewhat more important than religion. Faith is what you have inside you, what you believe. Religion is an institution, a building. But don't knock it too much. Some people need that kind of discipline and structure in thier lives. Other's don't. It all comes down to what suits you.
Che'_Moderator Posted March 26, 2005 Report Posted March 26, 2005 You've got it there. Faith is somewhat more important than religion. Faith is what you have inside you, what you believe. Religion is an institution, a building. But don't knock it too much. Some people need that kind of discipline and structure in thier lives. Other's don't. It all comes down to what suits you.←Agreed and I judge neither group. I just get a little upset when one group casts stones at the other. It is amazeing though that this convo has stayed this civilized.
beachnut Posted March 26, 2005 Report Posted March 26, 2005 God isnt just going to reach down and smite you to prove he is there, he has nothing to prove..... (not to be a "Bible Thumper") he merely knocks on the door and if u wanna let him in then you, if not, dont answer the door^^. Theres nothing wrong with sharing your faith with others, imposing or forcing is another matter no one wants to be forced to do anything.The way i share my faith is not always "thumping a bible" its by sharing the way my life changed when i became a beliver in christ....and no im no better than anyone else in the entire world....so please dont lump us all into a catagory of "biblethumping Guilt tripping moneygrubbers" there are many exceptions ←This was very well said Raeleus!Just to comment of something Charles said ... if you really do believe in God then you would understand that he does not make us religious, otherwise we would be mindless drones. God gave us freewill, we either choose him or we choose something else or ourselves.But if serving the Lord seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods you forefathers served beyond the River, or the gods of the Amorites in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord.-Joshua 24:15
Bay13 Posted March 26, 2005 Author Report Posted March 26, 2005 It is amazeing though that this convo has stayed this civilized.If you get it, no reason not to be un-civilized, if you don't then that when the brown stuff hits the fan.
550 Posted March 26, 2005 Report Posted March 26, 2005 yeah when knowledgable individuals come together and discuss, the results are very good (Yes even the ones who can't spell... cough me cough)
550 Posted March 27, 2005 Report Posted March 27, 2005 Well Said.When you said the thing about flying under the banner of religion with false pretenses... that is what gets me most. Around here we get alot of that... sadly. I believe it happens alot everywhere though, I just see it here, because I live here. Austin, you are a good guy.I like conversations were everyone is adult, and you can actually learn something.Again, well said.-Joe
Deltablade Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 I think all religions have parts of it right, but none have nailed it. So I try to live in a way to helps everyone I can and does not hurt anyone. I guess for me it is faith not religion. Live and let live. Maybe I am Peter, but I am not Judas ←Perhaps you should try Bahai, (Spelling), they believe that everyone had something to bring to the table: Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Zoroaster, Christ and Muhammad...
starfish Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 Baha'i what is that? What an insult to all religion! Only a weak-minded liberal could possibly fall for a BS scam like that! I hope your not a follower of that!
wattsat Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 Baha'i what is that? What an insult to all religion! Only a weak-minded liberal could possibly fall for a BS scam like that! I hope your not a follower of that!←Jesus, Whos that? Only a weak minded person would follow him!Mohammed, Who's That? Only a weak minded person would follow him!Buddha, Who's that? Only a weak minded person would follow him!Do you understand how ridiculous your statement is? Bring us some facts to support why you think only weak minded peopl follow it.I have never hear of Baha’i and know nothing about what they ask of it’s followers. If all that it does as ask for the followers to be open minded about the different important figures in the other religions and to analyze the good in each of them then I think it would be pretty good.Now, if all they do is promise you eternal life for following them, make wild promises they have no hope of fulfilling. Magically heal the sick, read peoples minds and then ask for donations so they can bring their spiritual healing to others. Then I most certainly agree with your statement of them being weak minded.But don’t call them a liberal. Because without liberals you would still be shitting in the hole you dug the day before.
Che'_Moderator Posted April 7, 2005 Report Posted April 7, 2005 Jesus, Whos that? Only a weak minded person would follow him!Mohammed, Who's That? Only a weak minded person would follow him!Buddha, Who's that? Only a weak minded person would follow him!Do you understand how ridiculous your statement is? Bring us some facts to support why you think only weak minded peopl follow it.I have never hear of Baha’i and know nothing about what they ask of it’s followers. If all that it does as ask for the followers to be open minded about the different important figures in the other religions and to analyze the good in each of them then I think it would be pretty good.Now, if all they do is promise you eternal life for following them, make wild promises they have no hope of fulfilling. Magically heal the sick, read peoples minds and then ask for donations so they can bring their spiritual healing to others. Then I most certainly agree with your statement of them being weak minded.But don’t call them a liberal. Because without liberals you would still be shitting in the hole you dug the day before.←Save your breath. He cannot hear you standing on all those Bibles.
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