vulvas40t41568908561 Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 tcode wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 00:26vulvas40t4 wrote on Sun, 26 November 2006 17:16Great you find cams. My plan is to take the original rods and clutch to limit and thats enough for me. So about 280-300hp. More than 300hp and you need to swap clutch and rods. 18T is fine for about 300-320hp with these cams. Phase 2 maf is enough for 340hp.You plan sound very good but if you dont want to swap those rods and clutch then you might want to thing about 18t. Yup, I am aware of stock clutch/rods limits and I don't intend go further than 300HP too. Is 18t easier to adapt on stock mainfold?All HL series mitsus need same installation. TD04HL-16T,18T,19T. L series is our original TD04L-14T , 12T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 vulvas40t4 wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 01:49tcode wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 00:26vulvas40t4 wrote on Sun, 26 November 2006 17:16Great you find cams. My plan is to take the original rods and clutch to limit and thats enough for me. So about 280-300hp. More than 300hp and you need to swap clutch and rods. 18T is fine for about 300-320hp with these cams. Phase 2 maf is enough for 340hp.You plan sound very good but if you dont want to swap those rods and clutch then you might want to thing about 18t. Yup, I am aware of stock clutch/rods limits and I don't intend go further than 300HP too. Is 18t easier to adapt on stock mainfold?All HL series mitsus need same installation. TD04HL-16T,18T,19T. L series is our original TD04L-14T , 12T.Ok, put it another way, why should I look for 18t instead 19t? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulvas40t41568908561 Posted November 27, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 tcode wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 12:00Ok, put it another way, why should I look for 18t instead 19t?16T 7# 280hp18T 7# 310hp19T 7# 330hp19T has little bit longer spool up time and if your goal is 300hp then 18T is the turbo for that. So why over size the turbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted November 27, 2006 Report Share Posted November 27, 2006 vulvas40t4 wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 05:58tcode wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 12:00Ok, put it another way, why should I look for 18t instead 19t?16T 7# 280hp18T 7# 310hp19T 7# 330hp19T has little bit longer spool up time and if your goal is 300hp then 18T is the turbo for that. So why over size the turbo. So I went today to pick up cams and I couldn't resist to buy this toofor a 180¤ , #7 exh. housing . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sachal007 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 did you buy adapter plate, you need to change that on ur manifold and cut your flange on ur downpipe and rotate it like 15 degree and ur good to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wa666ou Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 sry for hijacking topic, but as I'm getting 16T as well...so, there's no point making new 2,5" exhaust (all the way) before getting 16T?I mean it would be different flange at the downpipe connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 sacsha1 wrote on Mon, 27 November 2006 19:11did you buy adapter plate, you need to change that on ur manifold and cut your flange on ur downpipe and rotate it like 15 degree and ur good to goI don't have adapter plate at this moment.If I can't buy it for reasonable money I'll make one. DP isn't realy big problem since my exhaust shop already made custom 3" DP for me, some time before and will do it again for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 wa666ou wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 10:04sry for hijacking topic, but as I'm getting 16T as well...so, there's no point making new 2,5" exhaust (all the way) before getting 16T?I mean it would be different flange at the downpipe connection.Right. Or you can do all except DP at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 vulvas40t4 wrote on Thu, 23 November 2006 14:10Also we have adjustable head wheels on cams and adjustment range is + - 7.5 degrees on both cams. I left the adjustments on original 0, 0 settings. How can I make adjustments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theForgottenone Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 tcode wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 10:03vulvas40t4 wrote on Thu, 23 November 2006 14:10Also we have adjustable head wheels on cams and adjustment range is + - 7.5 degrees on both cams. I left the adjustments on original 0, 0 settings. How can I make adjustments?How to adjust cam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerBeGurGya Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 You might don't wanna adjust the cams as it looks like it opens 1mm more deep already compare to the original one.You don't have too much clearance to play with between the piston and the valves and better to be safe than sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulvas40t41568908561 Posted November 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 GerBeGurGya wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 01:36You might don't wanna adjust the cams as it looks like it opens 1mm more deep already compare to the original one.You don't have too much clearance to play with between the piston and the valves and better to be safe than sorry.Thats 100% true. But my friend has tested that with "max adjustments + or - 7.5degrees the valve still doesnt hit the piston but better safe than sorry. Theres no information how big the gap is when adjustments are 0 and when their on max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcode1568908558 Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 GerBeGurGya wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 18:36You might don't wanna adjust the cams as it looks like it opens 1mm more deep already compare to the original one.You don't have too much clearance to play with between the piston and the valves and better to be safe than sorry.Well, in my case it doesn't realy matter since pistons in my engine are already moded for minimum clearence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerBeGurGya Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 tcode wrote on Wed, 29 November 2006 06:28GerBeGurGya wrote on Tue, 28 November 2006 18:36You might don't wanna adjust the cams as it looks like it opens 1mm more deep already compare to the original one.You don't have too much clearance to play with between the piston and the valves and better to be safe than sorry.Well, in my case it doesn't realy matter since pistons in my engine are already moded for minimum clearence Those marks are from your valves right?.Don't forget that on high RPM-s if the exhaust can not flow really well the back pressure might gonna work against the valves making the valves closing up late or not letting it close at all.At this point the valves are controlled by the gases only.To prevent a catastrophic event like that the use of stronger spring are definitely a must to maintain proper closing.On the OEM clearance this has been calculated and with a change of the cams which pushes the valves deeper the clearance could be close to the safe limit.Stronger springs are the answer in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulvas40t41568908561 Posted November 30, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 GerBeGurGya wrote on Thu, 30 November 2006 04:23On the OEM clearance this has been calculated and with a change of the cams which pushes the valves deeper the clearance could be close to the safe limit.Stronger springs are the answer in this case.These cams are not that "aggressive". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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